Is that advice for me or mazda? ;) So tape is out, I'm going to cut down the
yogurt cup a bit and take more pictures as I go. I've got the OEM filter in
it right now and I'll record it like that so there's something to compare
to. After riding it with the K&N it feels kind of doggish with the old
stopped up OEM filter.

-Kyle
-Sent from Houston, TX, United States

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:

> My neighbor has one of those things sitting in his driveway...
> Don't get all elaborate before you get it right the first time.  I'd love
> for someone to improve on it. Don't restrict the air, that's not the
> purpose. The effect will be the same but it will cause a fall off above
> whatever. ?? Think more along square inches. It's a fine line but decreasing
> volume and restricting is not the same thing. Every time air enters a large
> space it slows down. My idea is not to have any large empty spaces but the
> right size intake tract. If I spend some time, I could come up with the
> exact size in sq In . A high speed air mass has inertia. So... Have you seen
> any of those trick after market truck intake systems ? Same idea. With a
> bike, we don't have the luxury of space to work in. Have to change what we
> have.
> I recorded my 700 today. Have to edit and convert the file. Post it later
> tonight.
>
> --- On *Sat, 9/5/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: dixie cup revisited
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 9:33 AM
>
>
> A buddy of mine (rx-7 driver) is suggesting I cut flaps and use two cups, a
> smaller one inside a larger one so I'd have one for low speeds and another
> for high speeds. Kind of like the complicated setup mazda had on it's 90s
> rx-7s, the setup that killed that car in the american market.
> I'm going to try trimming it down just a tad, I was also thinking about
> possibly using varying amounts of tape across the opening of the cone? Would
> that have the same effect?
>
> -Kyle
> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Dennis Hammerl 
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>>  I want to record my VF1100 too, a very nice sound.
>> Shorten by about 1/2~3/4" I think your burble will still be there but
>> there will be some changes. I have to look for some charts I have on the
>> dynamics of carburation. It shows what is being used at different throttle
>> openings.
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 9/5/09, Kyle Munz 
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: dixie cup revisited
>> To: 
>> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 12:56 AM
>>
>>
>> I don't have any fancy recorders, just my mp3 player. I'll try putting the
>> stock air filter back in and recording that at the same RPMs for something
>> to compare to.
>> I'll also try cutting the cup around the top to make it shorter, and
>> narrower so it will go deeper into the cone.
>>
>> -Kyle
>> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Dennis Hammerl 
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  After looking closely at the photo and listening to the audio file, I
>>> conclude the cup is too tall and blocking some of the inlet. Try a smaller
>>> (shorter) example. I have to record mine and submit the file. Sounds way
>>> different than yours. Unless the recording setup rolls off at the bottom. ??
>>> What did you use ? I'm going to use a portable studio cassette recorder and
>>> convert to m...@160 BR  It's a setup I used for broadcast FM years ago.
>>> ('06) Studio grade mike and recorder. Our budget didn't stretch far enough
>>> to use digital.
>>> Check the jet sizes anyway. Leave no stone... or it it stoned ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>

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