Send pix as attachments. The wear you describe is not right. Pads should wear evenly. Wheel is cocked to do this. Your measurements showed this too. That would cause the contact patch to be off-center. A careful re-assembly is going to take care of this. Still have to inspect the axle and get that right first. Gee, this bike will be totally different when you get done. Handle and brake better.
________________________________ From: Snookfever <[email protected]> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:29:33 AM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further Dennis; I do not know how to post a picture to an existing string. The pads are worn as if on a skew. One pads is thinner at the top then it is at the bottom and the other pad is the opposite thicker on the top then on the bottom. Wheel spin was relative to axel in hand. When in the forks without brakes wheel spins smooth and easy. I took a picture of the pads and will try to e-mail to you directly.Still can get nut off soking it in blaster. Glen On Jan 25, 11:22 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > Wear is uneven ? Send pix. Wheel requires some effort to turn ? Something > very wrong here. Get the axle apart and see. Resolve this before we go any > further. This sounds like an assembly problem. Incorrect order of assembly or > parts missing. The speedo drive cannot drag the wheel down but a missing > bearing spacer would. Let's see the pads and what they tell us. The wear > pattern is a giveaway. > > ________________________________ > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:27:36 PM > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > Dennis: > > I have rexamined everything very closley and here is what I found: > > Found a very small amount of play in the neck, tightened 1/8 turn. > > Brake pads are mettalic and wear is uneven and down to 1/8 inch or > less (I have new organic pads). > > I still cant get axle nut loose. Fok oil leaked out of the anti-dive > adjust. Leak is now fixed will try to get axle nut off again later. > Spinning wheel in the forks it looked true and has no play. Axle spins > but not without effort, I am assuming speedo is slowing it down. > > I examined the fork tubes carefully with a strait edge and I cant find > any defects. > > What course of action do you recommend next? > > Glen > > On Jan 24, 11:12 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any movement of the relationship between the upper and lower fork > > bridges while twisting ? Did you get the axle out ? > > While twisting the tubes, is there any movement of the very bottom of the > > fork ? Your measurements show that there is something flexed somewhere. The > > first things to flex are fork tubes. That's why this is so important. If > > you can't find any deviation in any component, then let's try reassembly in > > a very special sequence. > > > ________________________________ > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 10:54:40 PM > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > Dennis: > > > Twisting forks in the clamps I do not notice any binding or tight > > spots? Now what? > > > Glen > > > On Jan 20, 10:51 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Other than disabling the anti-dive, it shouldn't make a difference. > > > There's something wrong with your bike and it may be cured by careful > > > re-assembly. But, don't hurry to get there. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 10:28:58 PM > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > Dennis: > > > > Not sure if this could make a difference, but when I replace my fork > > > seals last year I disasembled the forks to clean out all the old oil > > > and I misplaced the ball berring and spring that act as the holder for > > > the anti dive adjustment nob. I assembled with out it and used an o > > > ring to hold the nob in place. I recently found the ball bering and > > > spring and replaced them tonight. > > > > Glen > > > > On Jan 20, 10:15 pm, Snookfever <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > Calipers working fine, pins still have grease and slide smooth > > > > (calipers cleaned and pins greased when I did the fork seals last > > > > year) > > > > Brake pads at 50% look fine no unusual wear > > > > No problems with fork brace or fender > > > > Wheel mounted correctly > > > > Forks slide in an out smoothly > > > > Cant get axle nut loose to remove axle from wheel. Is it standard > > > > thread left loosy? > > > > Axle has no play > > > > Checked wheel base and it measure 59.5 inches (axle center to axle > > > > center). > > > > > What next? > > > > > On Jan 19, 10:45 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Very good. That was an incidental because it was a good time to > > > > > perform the check. Better to find a problem now and not later. > > > > > Twisting the fork tubes and such are more to the point. While you > > > > > have a small deviation from correct, it makes it harder to find the > > > > > exact flaw. I do expect the fork tubes to be somewhat flexed. Another > > > > > thought that passed through is a misplaced spacer on the front axle. > > > > > The purpose of all this is to return it to a near perfect alignment > > > > > in two planes. Yours is off in both. That's what is leading me to > > > > > flexed fork tubes. When this is reassembled, there will be a sequence > > > > > of operations to insure alignment. I've found over the years that a > > > > > good many people will replace a tire and neglect the fine points of > > > > > assembly. Go slow and be methodical. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 10:25:40 PM > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > Smooth as glass left to right and no movement up and down. Will check > > > > > the brake calipers and front axle towmorrow. > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > On Jan 17, 4:52 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > This should keep you busy for a while. Get back to me. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:28:23 PM > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > Test results are as you predicted. The front wheel is not square and > > > > > > it is not centered when compared to the rear. Off aligment by about > > > > > > +/- 3/8 inch and out of square by +/- 1/8 inch. Tires were 10 lbs > > > > > > low > > > > > > on air. No signs of front end damage or repair. Please note I > > > > > > replaced the fork seals when I first got it and completely > > > > > > dissasembled both forks . The shop manual doesnot specify a the > > > > > > fork > > > > > > placement (height) in the clamps. The are currently 3/8 inch > > > > > > (fork > > > > > > tube not including cap) above the top clamp same for both sides. > > > > > > > What next? > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 11:52 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:> > > > > > > Start here Glen. > > > > > > > > alignment.doc > > > > > > > 29KViewDownload > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > > > > further checks.doc > > > > > > 13KViewDownload > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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