Dennis: I cant get the axel nut loose and I am afraid I am going to break a nuckle or worse something on the bike. The wheel appears to spin true.I think the axel is fine. I would like to proceed with reassembly. Please advise. Please note I have replaced the brake pads already.
Glen On Jan 26, 12:41 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > Send pix as attachments. The wear you describe is not right. Pads should wear > evenly. Wheel is cocked to do this. Your measurements showed this too. That > would cause the contact patch to be off-center. A careful re-assembly is > going to take care of this. Still have to inspect the axle and get that right > first. Gee, this bike will be totally different when you get done. Handle and > brake better. > > ________________________________ > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:29:33 AM > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > Dennis; > > I do not know how to post a picture to an existing string. The pads > are worn as if on a skew. One pads is thinner at the top then it is at > the bottom and the other pad is the opposite thicker on the top then > on the bottom. Wheel spin was relative to axel in hand. When in the > forks without brakes wheel spins smooth and easy. I took a picture of > the pads and will try to e-mail to you directly.Still can get nut off > soking it in blaster. > > Glen > > On Jan 25, 11:22 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Wear is uneven ? Send pix. Wheel requires some effort to turn ? Something > > very wrong here. Get the axle apart and see. Resolve this before we go any > > further. This sounds like an assembly problem. Incorrect order of assembly > > or parts missing. The speedo drive cannot drag the wheel down but a missing > > bearing spacer would. Let's see the pads and what they tell us. The wear > > pattern is a giveaway. > > > ________________________________ > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:27:36 PM > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > Dennis: > > > I have rexamined everything very closley and here is what I found: > > > Found a very small amount of play in the neck, tightened 1/8 turn. > > > Brake pads are mettalic and wear is uneven and down to 1/8 inch or > > less (I have new organic pads). > > > I still cant get axle nut loose. Fok oil leaked out of the anti-dive > > adjust. Leak is now fixed will try to get axle nut off again later. > > Spinning wheel in the forks it looked true and has no play. Axle spins > > but not without effort, I am assuming speedo is slowing it down. > > > I examined the fork tubes carefully with a strait edge and I cant find > > any defects. > > > What course of action do you recommend next? > > > Glen > > > On Jan 24, 11:12 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Is there any movement of the relationship between the upper and lower > > > fork bridges while twisting ? Did you get the axle out ? > > > While twisting the tubes, is there any movement of the very bottom of the > > > fork ? Your measurements show that there is something flexed somewhere. > > > The first things to flex are fork tubes. That's why this is so important. > > > If you can't find any deviation in any component, then let's try > > > reassembly in a very special sequence. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 10:54:40 PM > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > Dennis: > > > > Twisting forks in the clamps I do not notice any binding or tight > > > spots? Now what? > > > > Glen > > > > On Jan 20, 10:51 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Other than disabling the anti-dive, it shouldn't make a difference. > > > > There's something wrong with your bike and it may be cured by careful > > > > re-assembly. But, don't hurry to get there. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 10:28:58 PM > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > Not sure if this could make a difference, but when I replace my fork > > > > seals last year I disasembled the forks to clean out all the old oil > > > > and I misplaced the ball berring and spring that act as the holder for > > > > the anti dive adjustment nob. I assembled with out it and used an o > > > > ring to hold the nob in place. I recently found the ball bering and > > > > spring and replaced them tonight. > > > > > Glen > > > > > On Jan 20, 10:15 pm, Snookfever <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > Calipers working fine, pins still have grease and slide smooth > > > > > (calipers cleaned and pins greased when I did the fork seals last > > > > > year) > > > > > Brake pads at 50% look fine no unusual wear > > > > > No problems with fork brace or fender > > > > > Wheel mounted correctly > > > > > Forks slide in an out smoothly > > > > > Cant get axle nut loose to remove axle from wheel. Is it standard > > > > > thread left loosy? > > > > > Axle has no play > > > > > Checked wheel base and it measure 59.5 inches (axle center to axle > > > > > center). > > > > > > What next? > > > > > > On Jan 19, 10:45 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Very good. That was an incidental because it was a good time to > > > > > > perform the check. Better to find a problem now and not later. > > > > > > Twisting the fork tubes and such are more to the point. While you > > > > > > have a small deviation from correct, it makes it harder to find the > > > > > > exact flaw. I do expect the fork tubes to be somewhat flexed. > > > > > > Another thought that passed through is a misplaced spacer on the > > > > > > front axle. The purpose of all this is to return it to a near > > > > > > perfect alignment in two planes. Yours is off in both. That's what > > > > > > is leading me to flexed fork tubes. When this is reassembled, there > > > > > > will be a sequence of operations to insure alignment. I've found > > > > > > over the years that a good many people will replace a tire and > > > > > > neglect the fine points of assembly. Go slow and be methodical. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 10:25:40 PM > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > Smooth as glass left to right and no movement up and down. Will > > > > > > check > > > > > > the brake calipers and front axle towmorrow. > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > On Jan 17, 4:52 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > This should keep you busy for a while. Get back to me. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:28:23 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment > > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > > Test results are as you predicted. The front wheel is not square > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > it is not centered when compared to the rear. Off aligment by > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > +/- 3/8 inch and out of square by +/- 1/8 inch. Tires were 10 > > > > > > > lbs low > > > > > > > on air. No signs of front end damage or repair. Please note I > > > > > > > replaced the fork seals when I first got it and completely > > > > > > > dissasembled both forks . The shop manual doesnot specify a the > > > > > > > fork > > > > > > > placement (height) in the clamps. The are currently 3/8 inch > > > > > > > (fork > > > > > > > tube not including cap) above the top clamp same for both sides. > > > > > > > > What next? > > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 11:52 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:> > > > > > > > Start here Glen. > > > > > > > > > alignment.doc > > > > > > > > 29KViewDownload > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > > > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > > > > > further checks.doc > > > > > > > 13KViewDownload > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext > > > > - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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