Dennis: Its perfect! I tripple checked it with a square on each side both front and rear. Its right on!
Whats next? On Jan 27, 11:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > You didn't say you had the tubes off. Start at the common 3/8" position. > We'll attend to those little details later. When you let the bike settle on > the axle, keep the jack/s in place, we'll need them to support it during > alignment. First order of business is to make this thing as straight as can > be. Later is brakes, tube height,,, for now just the wheel in place. The > method is quite simple once you understand how all this fits together. If it > cannot be corrected in this manner, we look farther. > > ________________________________ > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:05:56 PM > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > Dennis: > > Bearings seem fine, spacer is present, spedo tangs looks fine and were/ > are aligned. I cleaned out the factory grease in the spedo and > replaced with a quality bearing grease. Japan doesnt make good grease > and they are very skimpy with it. Before setting the wheel to the > forks, shouldn't I set the forks to the bike? How far above the upper > clamp should I set each fork? Left and right the same height? Shop > manual gives no guidence as to fork placement in the clamps and I did > not mark them last year when I replaced the fork seals. > > I fabricated independent adjustable jacks for each side of the bike to > hold the front end off the ground while on the center stand so I could > replace the fork seals last year. However they are not adjustable once > the weight is on them, so I am going to have to wait until I can get > some help to square the rear wheel and lower the forks onto the > wheel. > > Glen. > > On Jan 27, 9:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Bearings good ? spacer present ? Speedometer drive tangs in proper place ? > > Reassemble and snug (not torque) axle nut. Bike is on center stand.. right > > ? Use a carpenters square against the back wheel and shim one of the center > > stand feet if need be so that the rear wheel is a perfect 90 to the floor. > > You need this as a reference when putting the front end back together. Bike > > supported by some kind of adjustable jack ? Lower front end till it rests > > on the axle. Leave calipers off at this point. Lightly snug the fork bottom > > clamps against the axle. (finger tight) Check for alignment with rear > > wheel. Report back. > > > ________________________________ > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 6:21:36 PM > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > Dennis: > > > After an over night soak in blaster and a longer wrench from a > > neighbor I got the axel apart. The axel is straight and all parts are > > present according to my shop manual. > > > What next? > > > Captain Obvious: Yes, I have been using "PB" Blaster and a Heat Gun, > > would have used a torch but I did not want to melt the bearring dust > > covers or plastic gears in the spedo. The problem was leverage... size > > does matter! > > > Glen > > > On Jan 27, 3:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am starting to lose it. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 8:35:10 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > Hey Dennis...will you tell this wingnut that he needs to use PB blaster > > > to get his axle nut loose? He listens to you...somewhat. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:36:26 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > I wouldn't reassemble it till I found out why that is. Too many parts in > > > there to disregard. Stepped spacer one side, speedometer drive other > > > side. Two bearings, spacer inside. Axle nut 54' lbs. should be tight but > > > not stuck on unless over tightened. Over tightened would damage bearings > > > and pull fork tubes together. Missing internal spacer would allow nut to > > > be over tightened. Incorrect drive installation would spread forks. Maybe > > > it's fine. The bottom line is, it's your butt. For me, I wanna' know. The > > > tire was the giveaway that something is wrong. Don't quit untill you know > > > and correct it. I can't work this way, my job depends on me doing it > > > right. For me, I'd put a socket on the fixed end bolt head and clamp a > > > breaker bar in a vise, and use the same deal on the nut end. Put a piece > > > of pipe on the bar and...it's coming off. I can't let a customer ride a > > > bike I "think" is OK. It better be right. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 8:42:32 PM > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > Dennis: > > > > I cant get the axel nut loose and I am afraid I am going to break a > > > nuckle or worse something on the bike. The wheel appears to spin > > > true.I think the axel is fine. I would like to proceed with > > > reassembly. Please advise. Please note I have replaced the brake > > > pads already. > > > > Glen > > > > On Jan 26, 12:41 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Send pix as attachments. The wear you describe is not right. Pads > > > > should wear evenly. Wheel is cocked to do this. Your measurements > > > > showed this too. That would cause the contact patch to be off-center. A > > > > careful re-assembly is going to take care of this. Still have to > > > > inspect the axle and get that right first. Gee, this bike will be > > > > totally different when you get done. Handle and brake better. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:29:33 AM > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > Dennis; > > > > > I do not know how to post a picture to an existing string. The pads > > > > are worn as if on a skew. One pads is thinner at the top then it is at > > > > the bottom and the other pad is the opposite thicker on the top then > > > > on the bottom. Wheel spin was relative to axel in hand. When in the > > > > forks without brakes wheel spins smooth and easy. I took a picture of > > > > the pads and will try to e-mail to you directly.Still can get nut off > > > > soking it in blaster. > > > > > Glen > > > > > On Jan 25, 11:22 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Wear is uneven ? Send pix. Wheel requires some effort to turn ? > > > > > Something very wrong here. Get the axle apart and see. Resolve this > > > > > before we go any further. This sounds like an assembly problem. > > > > > Incorrect order of assembly or parts missing. The speedo drive cannot > > > > > drag the wheel down but a missing bearing spacer would. Let's see the > > > > > pads and what they tell us. The wear pattern is a giveaway. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:27:36 PM > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > I have rexamined everything very closley and here is what I found: > > > > > > Found a very small amount of play in the neck, tightened 1/8 turn. > > > > > > Brake pads are mettalic and wear is uneven and down to 1/8 inch or > > > > > less (I have new organic pads). > > > > > > I still cant get axle nut loose. Fok oil leaked out of the anti-dive > > > > > adjust. Leak is now fixed will try to get axle nut off again later. > > > > > Spinning wheel in the forks it looked true and has no play. Axle spins > > > > > but not without effort, I am assuming speedo is slowing it down. > > > > > > I examined the fork tubes carefully with a strait edge and I cant find > > > > > any defects. > > > > > > What course of action do you recommend next? > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > On Jan 24, 11:12 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any movement of the relationship between the upper and > > > > > > lower fork bridges while twisting ? Did you get the axle out ? > > > > > > While twisting the tubes, is there any movement of the very bottom > > > > > > of the fork ? Your measurements show that there is something flexed > > > > > > somewhere. The first things to flex are fork tubes. That's why this > > > > > > is so important. If you can't find any deviation in any component, > > > > > > then let's try reassembly in a very special sequence. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 10:54:40 PM > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > Twisting forks in the clamps I do not notice any binding or tight > > > > > > spots? Now what? > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > On Jan 20, 10:51 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Other than disabling the anti-dive, it shouldn't make a > > > > > > > difference. There's something wrong with your bike and it may be > > > > > > > cured by careful re-assembly. But, don't hurry to get there. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 10:28:58 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > > Not sure if this could make a difference, but when I replace my > > > > > > > fork > > > > > > > seals last year I disasembled the forks to clean out all the old > > > > > > > oil > > > > > > > and I misplaced the ball berring and spring that act as the > > > > > > > holder for > > > > > > > the anti dive adjustment nob. I assembled with out it and used an > > > > > > > o > > > > > > > ring to hold the nob in place. I recently found the ball bering > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > spring and > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
