Start by tightening the axle clamps. Front nuts first, then rear ones. Recheck alignment. Position tubes in fork bridge clamps (so much above top bridge) and tighten clamps. Recheck alignment. Install fender and fork brace and recheck alignment. That reason behind this all is to see if at any time it shifts. Constant rechecking after each step will show the exact component that is at fault. If it doesn't move and stays right, all the better. Leave the brake calipers off for now. Get back to me when this is completed. Brake set-up is a bit more precise. If it moves as any clamp is tightened, note which one and report in.
________________________________ From: Glen <[email protected]> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 7:36:58 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further Dennis: Its perfect! I tripple checked it with a square on each side both front and rear. Its right on! Whats next? On Jan 27, 11:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > You didn't say you had the tubes off. Start at the common 3/8" position. > We'll attend to those little details later. When you let the bike settle on > the axle, keep the jack/s in place, we'll need them to support it during > alignment. First order of business is to make this thing as straight as can > be. Later is brakes, tube height,,, for now just the wheel in place. The > method is quite simple once you understand how all this fits together. If it > cannot be corrected in this manner, we look farther. > > ________________________________ > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:05:56 PM > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > Dennis: > > Bearings seem fine, spacer is present, spedo tangs looks fine and were/ > are aligned. I cleaned out the factory grease in the spedo and > replaced with a quality bearing grease. Japan doesnt make good grease > and they are very skimpy with it. Before setting the wheel to the > forks, shouldn't I set the forks to the bike? How far above the upper > clamp should I set each fork? Left and right the same height? Shop > manual gives no guidence as to fork placement in the clamps and I did > not mark them last year when I replaced the fork seals. > > I fabricated independent adjustable jacks for each side of the bike to > hold the front end off the ground while on the center stand so I could > replace the fork seals last year. However they are not adjustable once > the weight is on them, so I am going to have to wait until I can get > some help to square the rear wheel and lower the forks onto the > wheel. > > Glen. > > On Jan 27, 9:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Bearings good ? spacer present ? Speedometer drive tangs in proper place ? > > Reassemble and snug (not torque) axle nut. Bike is on center stand.. right > > ? Use a carpenters square against the back wheel and shim one of the center > > stand feet if need be so that the rear wheel is a perfect 90 to the floor. > > You need this as a reference when putting the front end back together. Bike > > supported by some kind of adjustable jack ? Lower front end till it rests > > on the axle. Leave calipers off at this point. Lightly snug the fork bottom > > clamps against the axle. (finger tight) Check for alignment with rear > > wheel. Report back. > > > ________________________________ > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 6:21:36 PM > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > Dennis: > > > After an over night soak in blaster and a longer wrench from a > > neighbor I got the axel apart. The axel is straight and all parts are > > present according to my shop manual. > > > What next? > > > Captain Obvious: Yes, I have been using "PB" Blaster and a Heat Gun, > > would have used a torch but I did not want to melt the bearring dust > > covers or plastic gears in the spedo. The problem was leverage... size > > does matter! > > > Glen > > > On Jan 27, 3:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am starting to lose it. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 8:35:10 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > Hey Dennis...will you tell this wingnut that he needs to use PB blaster > > > to get his axle nut loose? He listens to you...somewhat. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:36:26 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > I wouldn't reassemble it till I found out why that is. Too many parts in > > > there to disregard. Stepped spacer one side, speedometer drive other > > > side. Two bearings, spacer inside. Axle nut 54' lbs. should be tight but > > > not stuck on unless over tightened. Over tightened would damage bearings > > > and pull fork tubes together. Missing internal spacer would allow nut to > > > be over tightened. Incorrect drive installation would spread forks. Maybe > > > it's fine. The bottom line is, it's your butt. For me, I wanna' know. The > > > tire was the giveaway that something is wrong. Don't quit untill you know > > > and correct it. I can't work this way, my job depends on me doing it > > > right. For me, I'd put a socket on the fixed end bolt head and clamp a > > > breaker bar in a vise, and use the same deal on the nut end. Put a piece > > > of pipe on the bar and...it's coming off. I can't let a customer ride a > > > bike I "think" is OK. It better be right. > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 8:42:32 PM > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > Dennis: > > > > I cant get the axel nut loose and I am afraid I am going to break a > > > nuckle or worse something on the bike. The wheel appears to spin > > > true.I think the axel is fine. I would like to proceed with > > > reassembly. Please advise. Please note I have replaced the brake > > > pads already. > > > > Glen > > > > On Jan 26, 12:41 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Send pix as attachments. The wear you describe is not right. Pads > > > > should wear evenly. Wheel is cocked to do this. Your measurements > > > > showed this too. That would cause the contact patch to be off-center. A > > > > careful re-assembly is going to take care of this. Still have to > > > > inspect the axle and get that right first. Gee, this bike will be > > > > totally different when you get done. Handle and brake better. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:29:33 AM > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > Dennis; > > > > > I do not know how to post a picture to an existing string. The pads > > > > are worn as if on a skew. One pads is thinner at the top then it is at > > > > the bottom and the other pad is the opposite thicker on the top then > > > > on the bottom. Wheel spin was relative to axel in hand. When in the > > > > forks without brakes wheel spins smooth and easy. I took a picture of > > > > the pads and will try to e-mail to you directly.Still can get nut off > > > > soking it in blaster. > > > > > Glen > > > > > On Jan 25, 11:22 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Wear is uneven ? Send pix. Wheel requires some effort to turn ? > > > > > Something very wrong here. Get the axle apart and see. Resolve this > > > > > before we go any further. This sounds like an assembly problem. > > > > > Incorrect order of assembly or parts missing. The speedo drive cannot > > > > > drag the wheel down but a missing bearing spacer would. Let's see the > > > > > pads and what they tell us. The wear pattern is a giveaway. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:27:36 PM > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > I have rexamined everything very closley and here is what I found: > > > > > > Found a very small amount of play in the neck, tightened 1/8 turn. > > > > > > Brake pads are mettalic and wear is uneven and down to 1/8 inch or > > > > > less (I have new organic pads). > > > > > > I still cant get axle nut loose. Fok oil leaked out of the anti-dive > > > > > adjust. Leak is now fixed will try to get axle nut off again later. > > > > > Spinning wheel in the forks it looked true and has no play. Axle spins > > > > > but not without effort, I am assuming speedo is slowing it down. > > > > > > I examined the fork tubes carefully with a strait edge and I cant find > > > > > any defects. > > > > > > What course of action do you recommend next? > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > On Jan 24, 11:12 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any movement of the relationship between the upper and > > > > > > lower fork bridges while twisting ? Did you get the axle out ? > > > > > > While twisting the tubes, is there any movement of the very bottom > > > > > > of the fork ? Your measurements show that there is something flexed > > > > > > somewhere. The first things to flex are fork tubes. That's why this > > > > > > is so important. If you can't find any deviation in any component, > > > > > > then let's try reassembly in a very special sequence. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 10:54:40 PM > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > Twisting forks in the clamps I do not notice any binding or tight > > > > > > spots? Now what? > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > On Jan 20, 10:51 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Other than disabling the anti-dive, it shouldn't make a > > > > > > > difference. There's something wrong with your bike and it may be > > > > > > > cured by careful re-assembly. But, don't hurry to get there. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 10:28:58 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > > > > > > > Dennis: > > > > > > > > Not sure if this could make a difference, but when I replace my > > > > > > > fork > > > > > > > seals last year I disasembled the forks to clean out all the old > > > > > > > oil > > > > > > > and I misplaced the ball berring and spring that act as the > > > > > > > holder for > > > > > > > the anti dive adjustment nob. I assembled with out it and used an > > > > > > > o > > > > > > > ring to hold the nob in place. I recently found the ball bering > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > spring and > > ... > > read more ยป- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
