Dennis:

Off the stand. Wheel is ok 90 dreees to the floor.  Off center with
rear. Lines up on right side but off on left side by 3/4 inch or so.

What next?

Glen


On Jan 30, 5:01 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
> Everything stayed straight ? Still in perfect alignment with the back wheel ? 
> How about in parallel with the rear wheel as in earlier testing ? (that's the 
> second plane) Confirm both planes before we proceed. 90 degrees to floor and 
> less than 1/8" off center from rear wheel. That's as good as it gets.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Glen <[email protected]>
> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 4:28:00 PM
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> Dennis:
>
> All tight all right. What Next?
>
> Glen
>
> On Jan 28, 11:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Start by tightening the axle clamps. Front nuts first, then rear ones. 
> > Recheck alignment. Position tubes in fork bridge clamps (so much above top 
> > bridge) and tighten clamps. Recheck alignment. Install fender and fork 
> > brace and recheck alignment. That reason behind this all is to see if at 
> > any time it shifts. Constant rechecking after each step will show the exact 
> > component that is at fault. If it doesn't move and stays right, all the 
> > better. Leave the brake calipers off for now. Get back to me when this is 
> > completed. Brake set-up is a bit more precise. If it moves as any clamp is 
> > tightened, note which one and report in.
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Glen <[email protected]>
> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 7:36:58 PM
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > Dennis:
>
> > Its perfect! I tripple checked it with a square on each side both
> > front and rear. Its right on!
>
> > Whats next?
>
> > On Jan 27, 11:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > You didn't say you had the tubes off. Start at the common 3/8" position. 
> > > We'll attend to those little details later. When you let the bike settle 
> > > on the axle, keep the jack/s in place, we'll need them to support it 
> > > during alignment. First order of business is to make this thing as 
> > > straight as can be. Later is brakes, tube height,,, for now just the 
> > > wheel in place. The method is quite simple once you understand how all 
> > > this fits together. If it cannot be corrected in this manner, we look 
> > > farther.
>
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:05:56 PM
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > > Dennis:
>
> > > Bearings seem fine, spacer is present, spedo tangs looks fine and were/
> > > are aligned. I cleaned out the factory grease in the spedo and
> > > replaced with a quality bearing grease. Japan doesnt make good grease
> > > and they are very skimpy with it. Before setting the wheel to the
> > > forks, shouldn't I set the forks to the bike? How far above the upper
> > > clamp should I set each fork?  Left and right the same height? Shop
> > > manual gives no guidence as to fork placement in the clamps and I did
> > > not mark them last year when I replaced the fork seals.
>
> > > I fabricated independent adjustable jacks for each side of the bike to
> > > hold the front end off the ground while on the center stand so I could
> > > replace the fork seals last year. However they are not adjustable once
> > > the weight is on them, so I am going to have to wait until I can get
> > > some help to square the rear wheel and lower the forks onto the
> > > wheel.
>
> > > Glen.
>
> > > On Jan 27, 9:41 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Bearings good ? spacer present ? Speedometer drive tangs in proper 
> > > > place ?  Reassemble and snug (not torque) axle nut. Bike is on center 
> > > > stand.. right ? Use a carpenters square against the back wheel and shim 
> > > > one of the center stand feet if need be so that the rear wheel is a 
> > > > perfect 90 to the floor. You need this as a reference when putting the 
> > > > front end back together. Bike supported by some kind of adjustable jack 
> > > > ? Lower front end till it rests on the axle. Leave calipers off at this 
> > > > point. Lightly snug the fork bottom clamps against the axle. (finger 
> > > > tight) Check for alignment with rear wheel. Report back.
>
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 6:21:36 PM
> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > > > Dennis:
>
> > > > After an over night soak in blaster and a longer wrench from a
> > > > neighbor I got the axel apart.  The axel is straight and all parts are
> > > > present according to my shop manual.
>
> > > > What next?
>
> > > > Captain Obvious:  Yes, I have been using "PB"  Blaster and a Heat Gun,
> > > > would have used a torch but I did not want to melt the bearring dust
> > > > covers or plastic gears in the spedo. The problem was leverage... size
> > > > does matter!
>
> > > > Glen
>
> > > > On Jan 27, 3:21 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I am starting to lose it.
>
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Kim Paddock <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 8:35:10 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > > > > Hey Dennis...will you tell this wingnut that he needs to use PB 
> > > > > blaster to get his axle nut loose? He listens to you...somewhat.
>
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:36:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > > > > I wouldn't reassemble it till I found out why that is. Too many parts 
> > > > > in there to disregard. Stepped spacer one side, speedometer drive 
> > > > > other side. Two bearings, spacer inside. Axle nut 54' lbs. should be 
> > > > > tight but not stuck on unless over tightened. Over tightened would 
> > > > > damage bearings and pull fork tubes together. Missing internal spacer 
> > > > > would allow nut to be over tightened. Incorrect drive installation 
> > > > > would spread forks. Maybe it's fine. The bottom line is, it's your 
> > > > > butt. For me, I wanna' know. The tire was the giveaway that something 
> > > > > is wrong. Don't quit untill you know and correct it. I can't work 
> > > > > this way, my job depends on me doing it right. For me, I'd put a 
> > > > > socket on the fixed end bolt head and clamp a breaker bar in a vise, 
> > > > > and use the same deal on the nut end. Put a piece of pipe on the bar 
> > > > > and...it's coming off. I can't let a customer ride a bike I "think" 
> > > > > is OK. It better be right.
>
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 8:42:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > > > > Dennis:
>
> > > > > I cant get the axel nut loose and I am afraid I am going to break a
> > > > > nuckle or worse something on the bike.   The wheel appears to spin
> > > > > true.I think the axel is fine.  I would like to proceed with
> > > > > reassembly.  Please advise.  Please note I have replaced the brake
> > > > > pads already.
>
> > > > > Glen
>
> > > > > On Jan 26, 12:41 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Send pix as attachments. The wear you describe is not right. Pads 
> > > > > > should wear evenly. Wheel is cocked to do this. Your measurements 
> > > > > > showed this too. That would cause the contact patch to be 
> > > > > > off-center. A careful re-assembly is going to take care of this. 
> > > > > > Still have to inspect the axle and get that right first. Gee, this 
> > > > > > bike will be totally different when you get done. Handle and brake 
> > > > > > better.
>
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:29:33 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > > > > > Dennis;
>
> > > > > > I do not know how to post a picture to an existing string.  The pads
> > > > > > are worn as if on a skew. One pads is thinner at the top then it is 
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > the bottom and the other pad is the opposite thicker on  the top 
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > on the bottom. Wheel spin was relative to axel in hand.  When in the
> > > > > > forks without brakes wheel spins smooth and easy. I took a picture 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the pads and will try to e-mail to you directly.Still can get nut 
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > soking it in blaster.
>
> > > > > > Glen
>
> > > > > > On Jan 25, 11:22 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Wear is uneven ? Send pix. Wheel requires some effort to turn ? 
> > > > > > > Something very wrong here. Get the axle apart and see. Resolve 
> > > > > > > this before we go any further. This sounds like an assembly 
> > > > > > > problem. Incorrect order of assembly or parts missing. The speedo 
> > > > > > > drive cannot drag the wheel down but a missing bearing spacer 
> > > > > > > would. Let's see the pads and what they tell us. The wear pattern 
> > > > > > > is a giveaway.
>
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:27:36 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further
>
> > > > > > > Dennis:
>
> > > > > > > I have rexamined everything very closley and here is what I found:
>
> > > > > > > Found a very small amount of play in the neck, tightened 1/8 turn.
>
> > > > > > > Brake pads are mettalic and wear is uneven and down to 1/8 inch or
> > > > > > > less (I have new organic pads).
>
> > > > > > > I still cant get axle nut loose. Fok oil leaked out of the 
> > > > > > > anti-dive
> > > > > > > adjust. Leak is now fixed will try to get axle nut off again 
> > > > > > > later.
> > > > > > > Spinning wheel in the forks it looked true and has no play. Axle 
> > > > > > > spins
> > > > > > > but not without effort, I am  assuming speedo is slowing it down.
>
> > > > > > > I examined the fork tubes carefully with a strait
>
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