Rust is an understatement. It looked like barnacles in my tank. -Kyle
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>wrote: > Hey, Joey - Wally World carrys it. It's in a sort of red, white, and blue > can, and I believe, 16 ounces. You do have to pour it in and I recommend a > tranny funnel to do it, because it may possibly harm your paint. > Kyle - was there rust or something in your tank? > Lucas stuff is good, but expensive. I make a hydrogen generator that > I sell for $95 that gets about 40% to 60% better mileage and works on Diesel > rigs also. It's good for your engine, boosts power, and reduces certain > harmful emissions. You have to keep *buying* Lucas additives, and they > don't improve the engine's efficiency by very much... > On newer cars an EFIE may be required, because the computer may not > understand the signals it's getting from the oxygen sensors and *increases > * the amount of fuel in the charge, shortly after the initial mileage > increase. > Basically, an EFIE intercepts/alters the signal coming from the sensor(s). > > Stanley > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 12:29:13 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 > > This was a can of liquid, no aerosol. I didn't run it through the engine > though. I used it to clean the tank while it was off and dried it before > filling it back up with gas. Digging through the archives on the group I > found the following thread discussing rusty tanks. The Kreem treatment, and > a product called "Evapo-Rust" that seems to be the bee's knees... > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/browse_thread/thread/4156fc410f423a56/36915a11693b72b8?lnk=gst&q=mcclain+rust#36915a11693b72b8 > > > -Kyle > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Where does one get that Barryman stuff? >> -Joey >> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:19 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > But, was it a pour-in-the-tank can, or aerosol? I suspect it was a >> Berryman >> > product. If it was, they are not too expensive and work well. Helps >> > mileage a little, but not much. An ounce or two a gallon will clean out >> the >> > system. >> > Acetone, one of the likely ingredients, is supposed to help mileage. I >> put >> > some in my 450 when I first got it, but not for mileage - it was to >> clean >> > the carb. It works for injectors as well. >> > It lost most of the hesitation under hard acceleration after a few runs >> with >> > the acetone. >> > >> > Stanley >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 9:59:00 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 >> > >> > I just got a can of some sort of fuel system cleaner at the auto parts >> > store. I think it was called B12 or B31 or something. I remember the >> 'B'. It >> > wasn't the usual add-with-gas stuff though, I just asked the guy behind >> the >> > counter and then grabbed the largest can he had. >> > >> > -Kyle >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Bassam Khalil <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> What did you use to clean the tank and where did you get it. Has >> anybody >> >> >> >> Used metal rescue to clean tank? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bassam >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Bassam Khalil [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:37 PM >> >> >> >> To: '[email protected]' >> >> Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for the info. I do still think that the filter is still in the >> >> tank. This process has been >> >> >> >> Pretty easy so far. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bassam >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bFrom: [email protected] >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz >> >> >> >> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:14 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Cc: Bassam Khalil >> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. It's easy enough to remove the sending unit. After a while they >> become >> >> inaccurate. While you have the tank off it might be a good time to plug >> it >> >> in, and see if the fuel gauge corresponds with it. You may have to bend >> the >> >> arm a little bit to "tune" it. Just make sure it'll still operate >> inside the >> >> tank. >> >> >> >> 2. Any autoparts store should have some cleaner for it. I stopped by >> the >> >> hardware store and bought 3 rubber stoppers the right sizes for the >> >> openings. I screwed a hook into each one thought so I could pull it >> back out >> >> again. Fill it full of cleaner, stop it up, and shake the hell out of >> it. >> >> >> >> 3. The plastic tube is actually the reserve tank. When the petcock is >> >> switched to "On" it sips from the top of that tube. When you switch to >> >> "reserve" it opens up the bottom and sips all of the sludge from the >> bottom >> >> of the tank. There should still be a plastic screen inside the tank. >> Maybe a >> >> centimeter in diameter and just longer than that plastic tube. If you >> shine >> >> a light in the opening the petcock came out of you should see it. Mine >> >> looked like a brown plastic gasket just inside the opening until I >> shined >> >> the light inside. I definitely suggest checking this. Mine was cracked >> and >> >> ripped and wasn't screening anything. Others have found there's blocked >> up >> >> and restricting flow. >> >> >> >> -Kyle >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Bassam Khalil <[email protected] >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have taken the petcock of and empties the gas and had a couple of >> >> questions I was hoping could be answered. >> >> >> >> 1. should I remove the electronics on the tank for the fuel gauge? and >> if >> >> so >> >> is there anything I need to know to on how to remove? >> >> 2. Tank is a little dirty but no rust. What should I clean this with? >> >> 3. when I pulled the petcock of it didn't have a filter just A Long >> >> white plastic tube. Is there anything else I need to remove? is the >> >> filter still in the tank? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Bassam >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Bassam Khalil [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:39 AM >> >> To: '[email protected]' >> >> >> >> Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 >> >> >> >> Thanks again for the helpful advise... >> >> >> >> B-man >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz >> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:14 AM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 >> >> >> >> I used POR15 on mine. There are others that people have used but I >> >> can't remember the names. A search of the archives would probably pull >> >> it up. Some swear by them, others think it will fall off the tank and >> >> gum up the line. There are also products that claim to "eat the rust". >> >> If you only have a little you might go that way. >> >> >> >> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > It does have some rust but not much. What is the coating you speak >> of? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > >> >> > B-man >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: [email protected] >> >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle Munz >> >> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:07 AM >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 >> >> > >> >> > On 6/18/10, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I would take it off since it's relatively easy to do. Cleaning it >> >> >> isn't hard. The trick is drying it out thoroughly so any left over >> gas >> >> >> doesn't ignite.. I used a hair dryer for this, warm dry air >> evaporated >> >> >> all of the gas. There's some debate about whether or not to coat the >> >> >> inside of the tank. If it's not rusted you may not need to. If it is >> >> >> rusted make sure you clean it thoroughly and do a good job. Make >> sure >> >> >> the coating sticks. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 6/18/10, Bassam Khalil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> Should I take of the Gas tank or leave it on? Also should I clean >> the >> >> gas >> >> >>> tank and if so what should I clean >> >> >>> it with. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks >> >> >>> >> >> >>> B-Man >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >> >> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of surfswab >> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM >> >> >>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! >> >> >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 Nighthawk 650 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Here's a tip that may save you some grief later: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> There's an o-ring and a nylon filter "sleeve" that fits down over >> the >> >> >>> brass tube and seats down in the body of the petcock. It's a press >> >> >>> fit kind of an assembly and is held in place by the same large nut >> >> >>> that holds the petcock to the tank. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Make sure that's in place before you insert the tube into the tank >> >> >>> fitting, then push the whole assembly up into the tank with your >> >> >>> thumbs (fitting looks like a piece of threaded pipe). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Also make sure the petcock is square to the tank and facing you >> when >> >> >>> you do this, so it doesn't require twisting the assembly back and >> >> >>> forth to get it aligned properly, after you've started snugging the >> >> >>> big nut. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> If you have to twist the petcock back and forth to align it, you >> risk >> >> >>> tearing, shredding or twisting the nylon filter, like the previous >> >> >>> owner did to mine (!) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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