Dennis, you forgot to mention that you have to mount it upside down for use in New Zealand, Graham

On Jul 5, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Dennis wrote:

Paul,



This is how I mount my GPS on my 700SC. It’s a generic unit that clamps to the handlebars.



Dennis G.

-          Christchurch, New Zealand



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Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My 4th of July



Thanks Javier!



I was a little concerned about mounting my GPS on the windshield as it's not perfectly flat and I was concerned about getting good suction. I went out the morning and had a brain flash. Why not just mount it on the flat speedo? Since the GPS becomes my speedo replacement I really don't need to look at the old one. <image001.png>

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:

HI guys,
I am replying to all in here:

Graham: I think the way I did my paypal is almost like a check, so it takes few days for confirmation. An yes, the windshield is awesome! (the highway pegs too).

Steve: I don't think the length of the mirrors matter, but the quality. If they shake I'd think it is because they are not firm enough. Try to adjust them and see if that helps.

Paul: the pictures that show the GPS are older, when I went to visit Graham. I don't have it on the bike right now to take a picture, but yes, I mounted it on the windshield. I have a 12V cigarette outlet attached next to the battery. So the cable just comes out of the right-side cover, goes over the tank (with a little of schocht tape), to the front. I don't think there is any problem on having the GPS mounted on the windshield, I was only worried about the rain. The trip last for 3.5 hrs each way.

Javier.



On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:

Javier,
       A capacitor for 12 V automotive-ish (ie bikes too)
applications are rather expensive. They are sold for the high end
stereo guys to keep their batteries and alternators from getting
overwhelmed when Subwoofers kick in. For the price of one of those you
could easily purchase led taillight / brake light bulbs which would
provide no additional wiring changes (they don't blink so the flasher
unit isn't an issue) and would get you further in the long run, in my
opinion.
       That having been said - depending on where in the circuitry
you installed a capacitor, it would work. You can't install one
between the flasher unit and the lights, since they would tend not to
turn off. Just a thought.
       If you're already thinking of going the LED route - that is
what I'd start on and eventually you should see a difference. Keep in
mind that the voltage drop is different when you have the brakes on as
compared to when they are not on - this is another reason I'm
suggesting looking at LED tail / brake lights.
        -Joey


On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joey,
> thanks, you are totally right. What causes the dimming of lights
> (incandescent bulbs), or the non working of some of the LEDs is the drop in > voltage (now that I think about it, makes perfect sense). My plan is to go > completely with LEDs, for all turn signals, brake lights, etc. However, and > in the meanwhile, would a capacitor solve the problem of the drop in the
> voltage?
> Believe or not, I hate the Big Bag Theory tv show ;)
>
> Thanks a lot for the info.
> Javier.
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Javier,
>>         LEDs are extremely sensitive to voltage compared to normal
>> light bulbs. Normal light bulbs will simply be dimmer under less
>> voltage. LEDs may simply not light at all.
>>         LEDs require very little current - so unless they are
>> equipped with a resistor that adds additional load, the load on the
>> charging system shouldn't have increased that much.
>>         To prove that its the voltage being put out by the charging
>> system do this:
>>         Take a voltmeter - preferably digital - and measure the
>> starting voltage of the battery.
>>         Fire the bike up. Take note of the voltage of the battery
>> with the bike idling. It shouldn't be remarkably different from the
>> pre-starting voltage.
>> Hold the throttle open so the engine revs up to approximately >> 2,000 RPM and hold there. Measure the voltage again. You should see an
>> increase of a couple volts.
>> Now - release the throttle. Turn on the blinkers - you'll see
>> that the voltage drops as the lights turn on each time.
>>         Open the throttle back up to hold at 2,000 RPM and measure
>> the voltage with the blinkers on. You should see that although their >> might be a variance between lights on and off, the difference should
>> be much smaller than the engine idling.
>>         This simply means that the charging system is providing
>> electricity to the electrical system on the bike instead of drawing it >> from the battery. With the throttle open, you should see all the LEDs
>> blinking.
>>         The only 'cure' for this is to reduce the load on the
>> electrical system so the voltage drop from the blinkers turning on is
>> lower. This is one of the advantages of an all LED system - but you
>> must replace the flasher unit at the same time, otherwise they will
>> fail to blink because the existing system is load based. No / less
>> load, no blinking.
>>          Hope that helps!
>>           -Joey
>> (Not a physicist - but I watch the Big Bang Theory :-))
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Joey,
>> > I can see them blinking at the same rate as the standard turn signals. >> > However, one odd thing did happened. At the beginning not all the led's
>> > in
>> > the mirror illuminate, only about half of the line went on. When I turn
>> > on
>> > the engine and let it rev for few seconds all the leds in both mirrors
>> > came
>> > on. So I am a bit worry about the load on the system. I am ashame to
>> > admit
>> > that I am physicist that knows about electromagnetic theory but I have
>> > no
>> > idea how to apply it. I will try to make a short video of the thing
>> > tomorrow.
>> >
>> > Javier.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Javier,
>> >> Very nice - please advise how the additional turn signals
>> >> affect the blink rate and such.
>> >>         -Joey
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Dear all,
>> >> > I decided to spend my day giving a good deep cleaning to the bike and
>> >> > to
>> >> > install a new set of mirrors I got. I figured out it was a good
>> >> > opportunity
>> >> > to take pictures of the 750, since she is not this clean that often
>> >> > (I
>> >> > uploaded them in the group page). The new mirrors come with leds for
>> >> > the
>> >> > turn signals. I hook them up and they seem to work pretty good,
>> >> > although
>> >> > I
>> >> > have to try them for a bit longer. I'd love to read your comments. I
>> >> > hope
>> >> > everyone had a great 4th of July.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Javier.
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