seatbelts do help you control the car.... they hold you in the seat during a
situation of high g force (take your car/truck offroading without seatbelts,
and with... you stay in your seat much more, and therefore have better
control) thats why i believe that seatbelts should be mandatory, on the
other hand by the time you need a helmet you are already on the ground (no
chance of "if i had better control i could have prevented this"). i believe
that helmets should be a choice, not manditory where seatbelts should be
required. presonaly i never go more then out of the parking lot without a
helmet, but that is also my choice

yeti

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Mack Swanson <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011106300420
>
> that was in the local paper here in detroit last week,  i know the guy that
> wrote it.
>
> --- On *Mon, 7/4/11, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Motorcyclist Killed While Riding
> Without Helmet to Protest New York Helmet Law
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, July 4, 2011, 2:50 AM
>
>
> Touchy subject still, but I believe in free choice too. But to be a free
> and clear choice, people have to also be able to refuse to, say, insure you,
> or treat you if you did something monumentally stupid like not wearing a
> helmet or a seatbelt and you cause yourself injury that could have easily
> been prevented.
>
> I hate that this guy died. I wish he hadn't. In fact, I'm not even going to
> say that I wish he had simply cracked his head hard or rattled his brain to
> make the point. I wish that kind of harm only on my enemies, and I don't
> even know him. If he /had/ to wreck, by some divine force, I do just wish
> he'd had the head thump and brain rattle rather than the death, though. At
> least then he could recover and continue living, possibly with a changed
> outlook on helmets.
>
> I'm just saying that it's pretty bone-headed (or not) to not take even the
> simplest of precautions to protect one of the few organs you have that
> doesn't grow back.
>
> And yes, I take much the same view on things like seatbelts (my new
> girlfriend and I are already butting heads over this, she just doesn't have
> the habit of putting it on, I make her put it on in my car) or riding around
> in the bed of a pickup truck (which is in and of itself illegal just because
> of the belt laws, it doesn't have to be explicitly banned people. My
> state... *Facepalm*).
>
> -Kurt
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:32 AM, James O'Gorman 
> <[email protected]<http://us.mc455.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> I know this is a touchy subject, but I believe in free choice. It is
> unfortunate that the government had to get involved and tell people what to
> do, but it is also sad that this guy lost his life.
>
> This is the same as the seatbelt argument - it's really up to the
> individual, but you're taking a big risk if you don't. I think about my wife
> every time I go on the road and what she would have to do if I lost my life
> because of such a simple thing.
>
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