thanks Kurt,  I didn't know that,  Graham

On Nov 16, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote:

Most alternators function a bit like "bottomless batteries" in that they provide a voltage, and whatever current the circuit needs at that voltage it supplies up to the limitations of the coils.

A depleted battery will draw a lot of current for the chemical reaction needed to provide separation of charge, just like an empty capacitor will draw heavier current as it stores electrons across the plates.

A running vehicle won't force any more current through a jumpstart than a battery will, nor more voltage, but it will allow for more current to be available because the alternator can supply its oomph. This is also probably why it is recommended that you don't just ground the jumping vehicle on the battery, as the alternator has a convoluted ground path to get there.

In a pinch you wouldn't really hurt the starter by giving it (and only it) a quick shot of 24v; the windings can take it in brief bumps. Obviously not a good idea for anything computerized or involving lighting instruments.

Kurt


On Nov 16, 2011 1:48 PM, "paul annen" <[email protected]> wrote:

thank you kurt, i was thinking exactly the same....

and with a running engine you are giong to have an alt spinning producing amps (and volts) and is set up on a voltage sensing circut... most modern cars use a 60 amp alt, but this alt is only putting out that much power when its sensing that the battery its hooked to is dead (and still has enough voltage to excite the circuit). i dont have a problem with jumping a bike with a running engine, as long as it a 12v (nominal) source.. dont pull from a 24v truck or bus circuit, or a 6v golf cart battery (unless you are doing it in pairs)... i also go against what most books tell you and hook directly to the battery, not positive to positive and then negitive to ground..


On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
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