At 10:48 AM 11/16/2011, you wrote:
thank you kurt, i was thinking exactly the same....

and with a running engine you are giong to have an alt spinning producing amps (and volts) and is set up on a voltage sensing circut... most modern cars use a 60 amp alt, but this alt is only putting out that much power when its sensing that the battery its hooked to is dead (and still has enough voltage to excite the circuit). i dont have a problem with jumping a bike with a running engine, as long as it a 12v (nominal) source.. dont pull from a 24v truck or bus circuit, or a 6v golf cart battery (unless you are doing it in pairs)... i also go against what most books tell you and hook directly to the battery, not positive to positive and then negitive to ground..


The books tell you this for YOUR safety not the Bikes. The last connection is the one that could spark, IF you have a hydrogen buildup at the battery when you make this spark bad things could happen. Making the ground (should be last) connection to the frame or engine does 2 things. If moves this spark away from the hydrogen source and eliminates 2 possible bad connections. If your ground cable to the battery, or engine is bad then putting the jumper cable on the engine eliminates this problem from getting you running again. Most bikes do not have enough plastic installed during a jump start to hold any hydrogen so it's safer to buffer the jump start with the bike's batt.

Pat Patterson
Abbotsford, BC, Canada


2001 PT Cruiser
83 450 Honda Nighthawk
78 F350    460/C6 on propane
71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9"


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