In Ireland it's just banter as we call it that means a friendly bit of 
competition and to be fair old British bikes were awful for leaking oil but 
your right we are all bikers and what we ride doesn't matter it's the fact we 
ride at all that counts 

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On 28 Mar 2013, at 22:43, "jeff mercier" <[email protected]> wrote:

> that old wives tale is older than all of us are and not true at all.
> I had a 49 panhead that I built from two cases, a flywheel and a frame and 
> that bike didn't leak one drop.
> my buddy who I built it with had a 52 panhead that not only didn't leak, he 
> got over 100k on the motor without a rebuild or any major motor problems.
> my last real bike was a generator shovelhead and it didn't leak oil till the 
> end but it wasn't from the motor, it was from the kicker seal in the tranny 
> and cause I was too lazy to change it.
> like I said, the only properly maintained HD that leaks oil, are the vls and 
> older and that's cause they were built with a thing called an oil dump put 
> there purposely. its alos how the Harleys leak oil thing started.
>  
> frankly, saying that is like saying that all Japanese bikes used to be 
> American soda cans.
> we are ALL into this thing we call a motorcycle.
> heck most of us here in florida even include scooter riders as 'bikers'
> sorry for ranting, but the main reason I moved to central florida is the lack 
> of a hd against jap bike ego battle that goes on else where in the usa. the 
> hatred is so counterproductive to our well being
> From: paul annen <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Where do I find a 1996 750 Starter Motor
> 
> How do you know a harley ran out of oil?..... It stops leaking
> On Mar 28, 2013 6:11 PM, "jeff mercier" <[email protected]> wrote:
> it depends...it only works if the Harley is either newer than the vls and 
> older than the evo and that's only if an idiot owns it.
> 
> From: Rmj <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Where do I find a 1996 750 Starter Motor
> 
> You want to really pull a good joke. Get motor oil & leave a puddle under a 
> Harley. Makes them go nuts!
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ross
> From: surfswab
> Sent: 3/28/2013 4:36 PM
> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Where do I find a 1996 750 Starter Motor
> 
> Gotta watch yer "buddies" sometimes, too.  Rarely use the kill switch.
> 
> I work for a trucking company and there's usually a half-dozen drivers
> milling about between runs.  Had my bike parked outside my office and
> one of them thought it would be cute to turn the kill
> switch off.
> 
> Come time to leave, bike wouldn't start, of course.  Messed around
> with it a good while, even had two drivers pushing me back and forth,
> trying to pop-clutch start.
> 
> When it dawned on me some clown had messed with the kill switch, I was
> pissed.  But after I calmed down, I had to give the mystery jokester
> credit for a pretty decent practical joke.
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 10:04 am, Christy Deering <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I spent about 45 minutes late one night freaking out about my bike not
> > starting, scrambling around trying to figure it out, fuming loudly at my
> > friend whose house I needed to get home from, only to go out there one very
> > last time (wanting nothing more than to kill) and finally noticed that I'd
> > bumped the kill switch. I felt like a giant...what's the word I'm looking
> > for...idiot? Child? :) You only have to do that once to check the kill
> > switch first thing the next time your bike won't start...:P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:19:19 AM UTC-5, John Stewart wrote:
> >
> > > That happened to a friend of mine he phoned me to say his bike had broken
> > > down so I drove 40 miles to find he had hit the run switch to the off
> > > position by accident he was a bit embarrassed . I myself never use the run
> > > switch
> >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 27 Mar 2013, at 02:21, "Javier Garcia" <[email protected] 
> > > <javascript:>>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I once heard the story of a guy that bought a new battery and then a new
> > > starter motor because the bike wouldn't start. Later he found out that the
> > > kill switch was off. He never used so forgot to check that.
> >
> > > Javier.
> > > On Mar 26, 2013 7:53 PM, "MJB_LBC" 
> > > <[email protected]<javascript:>>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> Hello everyone, just wanted to make a quick comment concerning this post
> > >> about the starter. I was having the same "problem," but could always push
> > >> start the bike, so I never really worried about it. Then I read this post
> > >> and almost the VERY NEXT DAY, I went to work, everything was fine. Came 
> > >> out
> > >> to go home, nothing!! I thought man, my starter must have FINALLY gone 
> > >> out.
> > >> Was kicking myself for not taking care of it sooner.
> >
> > >> Walked home, about 1.5 miles, mostly uphill, so I dreaded pushing the
> > >> bike home. (I tried calling AMA's Roadside Assistance, but they couldn't
> > >> get anyone to come out on a Sunday afternoon.) Started looking for a
> > >> starter, then after reading this post, I started looking for a rebuild 
> > >> kit,
> > >> etc.
> >
> > >> Anyway, I walked to work the next day. Once I was finished, went out to
> > >> start looking at wires, connections, etc. Still couldn't get it to start.
> > >> Took the seat and and both side covers off so I could hear better. All I
> > >> was getting was click, in the middle of the bike. All the lights were 
> > >> lit.
> > >> Assumed it was the battery, but after more reading, thought it might be 
> > >> the
> > >> starter relay switch. Walked back home...
> >
> > >> Next day after work, I figured I would push the bike home and give the
> > >> battery a really good charge, even though I knew it couldn't be the
> > >> battery. Half way home on the down side of one of the hills, I thought 
> > >> what
> > >> the hell, I might as well try to push start it again, there was a lot of
> > >> slope to the hill. Sat on the bike, checking everything out, then I 
> > >> notice
> > >> that one of the plugs connecting to the clutch switch is out of the
> > >> connector!! Plugged it in and EUREKA!! Was so relieved!!!
> >
> > >> I guess the moral of this story is to check EVERYTHING!! I had checked
> > >> the RUN/OFF switch. I checked all the wiring connections. Never looked at
> > >> the Clutch Switch.  :(
> >
> > >> I still charged the battery when I got home, I will buy a starter rebuild
> > >> kit cause it looks like it is easy to do and it's $15! I will order a
> > >> starter relay cause it it's only like $10. Seems I should have a spare 
> > >> one.
> >
> > >> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:58:53 PM UTC-5, Hawaii Sean wrote:
> >
> > >>> So my bike fails to start every 3rd or 4th attempt so I have to push
> > >>> start my bike.
> >
> > >>> Does anyone know where I can order a rebuilt started motor?  New is way
> > >>> too expensive and used doesn't make much sense.
> >
> > >>> Thanks - Sean
> >
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