I will always feel that to not have an 'we are all in this together' attitude is counterproductive. might I suggest that you are looking at the wrong people? I have hung with many hd riders down here including outlaws and such and not gotten crap from any of them heck even mikes cycles there in new Smyrna is owned by a guy who prefers hds but sells a LOT of japanese bikes. that's who I got my 650 from. I dunno what to tell you paul. to me what you don't like about Harleys is what makes them appealing to me. the sheer genius of making a motorcycle [I am only talking about the pre evo bikes now, post evo, there is very little difference between a Harley and a Japanese bike.] that can be changed and altered from amongst a approx. 30 yr span. I also like the simplicity of them. pretty much anyone can rebuild a panhead or a shovelhead. they have so few working parts and are about as simplistic as an internal combustion engine vehicle can be. I knew a guy a while ago who had a shovel pan, thats right, a cone motor bottom end and a panhead top end. one of the prettiest bikes ive ever seen. try swapping parts from two Japanese bikes designed 30 yrs apart. old iron Harleys have their place imo as do Japanese bikes. you seem to be clumping all the Harley riders into one RUB category. surely you must know that there are just as many weekend jockeys on Japanese bikes as there are on hds. no hate for them? before I moved down here, I rode all year round in Connecticut as did all the guys I hung with, more than a few times, I had to stop and clear the snow from under the frame cause the front wheel came off the ground from snow caught under the frame again, as did the guys I rode with. I cant stand any kind of 'my type of bike is better than yours' attitude, which IMO Harley bashing jokes are [ I act exactly the same when 'Harley people' talk crap about Japanese bikes] , even in jest its counterproductive. you don't know who reads your threads and thinks its cool to behave like that as a result. its like the perpetuation of any kind of slurs. it always hurts more than it helps. I found you a long time before I ever posted here and I certainly don't have the ego to think I am the only one smart enough to do it. then you go on to talk about how hd riders change exhausts that wouldn't meet noise codes and aftermarket intakes that void epa restrictions? you really don't think that most 'crotch rocket' jap bike riders do exactly the same thing? I see it every day im on the road. heck. theres a shop in Daytona that specializes in hot rodding Japanese bikes. let me give you an example of the kind of person I am. I went to the cabbage patch a long time ago and saw the 'no ni$$ers allowed sign on the door, I left and tell anyone wholl listen why I wont go back. it was a nice ride home from samsula. btw cabbage path is open all year round. I went to earthquakes while a band was there a long time ago and they were playing david allen coe songs, I left and told anyone who would listen why it sucked. since earthquakes is now closed, that kind of thing works. maybe you don't remember all the 'bikers rights' fights of the 80s with relation to insurance, helmet laws and recognition of bikes on the road in general but I lived it. it took EVERYONE to get things better. frankly imo bike bashing either way is boring and elitist. am I saying that ive never done it? hell no but im not excusing it either. it was wrong. do I think the weekend riders who 'play' biker on both jap and us bikes are silly? of course but so are 250 million other people in the usa. so are you at some things so am I at some things. that's life sorry but theres never any use for bashing other peoples rides no matter which side you are on. personally im not a biker or a motorcyclist. im simply a person who enjoys motorycles more than I enjoy cars. I cant explain it, I just feel great when im riding no matter what im riding. [prolly why im such an aggressive rider when the bike has the power to do it and my 650 does. its no kawi h2 but its got a 10 grand redline and I use it the way it was built to be used.] well to be honest, cause im quite large so I didn't enjoy the 150 cc Chinese scooter I had before the 650 and after the Harley. all I felt most of the time was pity for the poor bike. :) .but I loved loved loved the 125cc vespa I had when I was 16. ps as far as the buffalo vs leather thing is concerned, thicker hide is certainly better but even if you go down at 60-65, a basic riding leather will be enough to protect you as you slide. from experience, its the trying to make sure that you don't slide into anything with important parts of your body that is most important. it isn't the sliding that kills riders, its the sudden stops from sliding or not sliding at all and skipping straight to the sudden stop. want to have some fun reading about the old days to lighten things up a little now? this is an article about an old job I had in the late 70s to around 1980 http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/courant/access/967591352.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Mar+30%2C+1978&author=BILL+GRAVA&pub=The+Hartford+Courant+%281923-1987%29&edition=&startpage=39&desc=Cycle-Ambulance+Creates+a+Stir well that's my rant reply. if you don't want me to speak my mind let me know jeff
________________________________ From: paul annen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Where do I find a 1996 750 Starter Motor My comments about HD are out of jest. My biggest problem with HD has nothing about the bike, but the bikers on them and what they do to them. I cant stand the biker attitude. I do not consider myself a biker, i am a motorcyclist. I dont wear black leather because thays what you do on a bike, i wear thick buffalo because it will save my skin if i go.down on i 4 (yes, im in central florida too, live just south of daytona and work in sanford). I dont dust off my ride twice a year to take it to the cabbage patch (big biker attraction durring bike week and biketoberfest for.those not in florida). I ride 83 miles commute daily. I dont own a car, my goldwing is my only transportation and i like.it that way. There is absolutely nothing wrong with HD from the FACTORY. The dealer installed add ons are the first.step in what i dont like. I chalange anybody to go to there local harley dealer and find a single HD that is still factory. Between "custom" exausts that woild never meet noise code, aftermarket intakes that void epa restrictions, and the bikers that add other aftermarket "upgrades" when they dont understand the stages involved in them (eg, if you have a less restrictive airfilter, you need to richen your carbs to maintain proper air/fuel mix)... One reason i like this group is because most of us here are very lighthearted and know how to work on there bikes, or atleast know to ask and they wont be bashed for not knowing On Mar 28, 2013 8:41 PM, "jeff mercier" <[email protected]> wrote: > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
