Y'know, I started this thread as kind of a rant, but it turned into a pretty decent discussion.
If you haven't had enuf, search You Tube with the phrase "change a motorcycle tire." It's amazing how many different homegrown ways folks have worked out for gettin' the job done. Some good, some not, but all of it entertaining. On Apr 5, 3:55 pm, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> wrote: > 110/90-16 front and 130/80/18 rear. They offer a 150/70-17 rear that would > have worked fine on the Hurricane rear rim that's on its way, but I'll put > that one on the back burner for the moment and run through the Activs. > Trying to find anything halfway decent for a skinny 16" front was getting > frustrating, but a CBR600 F1 front rim shares wheel bearings and break > discs with the VFR. And I happened to already have one, so a 17 is up front > instead of the 16" rim. > > -Kurt > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > What size tires are you supposed to have? > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > ------------------------------ > > *From: * Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> > > *Sender: * [email protected] > > *Date: *Fri, 5 Apr 2013 15:25:42 -0400 > > *To: *[email protected]<[email protected]> > > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > > *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > > I'm all for buying local, but I think I'm done with this shop. > > > They were hot for my business with their PR2 sale. Then they figured out > > that I wasn't going to have them mount them (at $30/ea). Now suddenly > > they're "out of my size" and need to get more from the warehouse... when > > just the beginning of this week over the phone they had the proper sizes. > > > Screw it. > > > So I just dropped what they would have charged me for two tires and > > mounting on everything I need to mount them myself (and the tires too, of > > course). Also, I think they lied about being able to get PR2s in the right > > sizes; to keep the front the right diameter for speedometer accuracy, I > > need a 110/80-17. I only see 110/70-17 as an option on Michelin's site. > > > Going with a set of Activs for now; we'll see how I like them. Been nosing > > around, may find a way to put less-skinny rims on there in the future and > > go to a 120 in the front and a 150 in the back. Or I may love the Activs > > and just stick with them. :p > > > -Kurt > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> Yea I figured the $5 for the tire snot was cheap insurance. Whether it > >> was a wives tale or not. > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >> ------------------------------ > >> *From: * "Pastor Ron" <[email protected]> > >> *Sender: * [email protected] > >> *Date: *Fri, 5 Apr 2013 13:20:49 -0500 > >> *To: *<[email protected]> > >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > >> *Subject: *RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > >> I stand corrected. It’s a chemical reaction. I have seen it discolor on > >> the inside of the rim. But didn’t really care about that. Apparently it > >> can happen along the rim. So if you are going to keep the bike use the > >> store bought.**** > > >> Ron**** > > >> ==================================**** > > >> …that residue is a product of a chemical reaction between the > >> dish-washing detergent and the aluminum.**** > > >> it's a chemical reaction between soap and aluminum, involving the > >> formation of atomic hydrogen particles. no need to get into the heavy, > >> detailed science, here, but basically it eventually causes the aluminum to > >> flake, which produces that grey residue.this is why the better > >> aluminum-core pans are clad in stainless steel - to protect the aluminum. > >> **** > > >> the bottom line is that detergent + hot water will eventually > >> degrade/dull aluminum, and produce that residue even if you don't put the > >> items in the dishwasher.**** > > >> ** ** > > >> ** ** > > >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Allen Thomas > >> *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2013 12:50 PM > >> *To:* Nightwawk Lovers > >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping**** > > >> ** ** > > >> The basis was that soap is an alkaline.**** > > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T**** > >> ------------------------------ > > >> *From: *"Pastor Ron" <[email protected]> **** > > >> *Sender: *[email protected] **** > > >> *Date: *Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:51:07 -0500**** > > >> *To: *<[email protected]>**** > > >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] **** > > >> *Subject: *RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping**** > > >> ** ** > > >> I’m not buying the soapy water causes corrosion. They are aluminum > >> wheels. Aluminum is non-ferrous… no metal to rust or corrode. There was > >> a big discussion on the ST page about water getting into the valve stems > >> and freezing. But the consensus was it all seemed a bit far fetched. ** > >> ** > > >> ** ** > > >> *From:* [email protected] [ > >> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > >> *On Behalf Of *Allen Thomas > >> *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2013 11:07 AM > >> *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping**** > > >> ** ** > > >> Bead breaker. > > >>http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/bead-breaker/motorcycle-tire-bead-brea... > >> **** > > >> bolt cutter or hacksaw on the bead after slicing off the tread.**** > > >> ** ** > > >> using lashing straps to mount a tire. > >>http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299597**** > > >> I've got tire lube already. Soapy water I have read can corrode the > >> aluminum rim. Besides the mounting lube was cheap.**** > > >> ** ** > > >> ** ** > > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Pastor Ron <[email protected]> wrote:*** > >> * > > >> I've changed a number of them, and never used a knife. And don't know if > >> that would even work to cut the wire bans down along the rim. I have > >> found > >> the bead can be broke easy enough with my 200 lbs on top of a plank to the > >> rim. (However since I changed my own, I never put a sealant in the tire. > >> That may be more difficult.) The thing to be really careful about is the > >> rim > >> itself that you do not damage it. The secret to stretching it over the > >> rim > >> when taking the back side off, is to get the tire in the center of the > >> rim, > >> where there is more room for it to slip over. Also make sure you put the > >> new one on in the right direction use soapy water for lubricant.**** > > >> Ron > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of surfswab**** > > >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 9:27 AM > >> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!**** > > >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > >> Rather than them adopting a punitive stance toward the bargain shopper, > >> they'd be a lot more successful applying some enterprising capitalism. > > >> How 'bout if the sign read: > > >> "Tires mounted $36. Free mounting if you bring in your wheels and buy > >> from > >> us." > > >> Let the consumer decide which is the better deal. No need to mention > >> "discouraging" a certain class of buyer. No need to mention the lack of > >> in > >> stock brands, and no need to mention they'll probly get their + > >> $20 from markup on the tires. > > >> l would have at least stuck around to hear the fine print of that deal. > > >> On Apr 5, 9:10 am, "Pastor Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I don't know why I can't let this go. $72 is still not that bad. > >> > Their point of charging the extra $20, I take that as a smack down. > >> > It's meant to punish and insult you for being concerned about the $. > >> > They certainly have a right to be paid for their services, but insults > >> > are not the way to inspire loyal customers. > > >> > However if they had that tire I wanted in stock, that would be a > >> > different thing. Because I would be willing to pay for the > >> > convenience. That's the way it used to be! But now they want the > >> > prices/profits/charges of the old days, without supplying the service > >> > or convenience. I've been to my Honda dealer here a number of times > >> > and they do not have even the basic of parts or metric screws. The > >> > screw store down the street has more metrics than they do. I would > >> > have been willing to pay much more than internet prices if they just had > >> the blasted thing in stock so I could get the bike running. > >> > The whole dealer thing is messed up IMHO. > >> > Ron > > >> > From: [email protected] > >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joey Kelley > >> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 7:25 AM > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > >> > Ron, > >> > Sorry - $36 X 2 = $72 - not $92 / hour - but your point is > >> valid. > >> > I think that shops today are trying very hard not to become > >> > boutiques that show things but never sell things - in the case of > >> > helmets and other gear - or places that just install things with no > >> > margin on the parts. Unfortunately - I think that this is just bucking > >> > a trend. Small shops are going to have to start selling parts on > >> > either 0 or close to it margin to compete with direct purchasing > >> > warehouses. Otherwise, they will be in the position of being > >> > significantly higher priced than say a dealer that works through their > >> > manufacturer's discount plans. As a result, people will start to go > >> elsewhere. > >> > Thats just my 2 cents! > >> > -Joey > > >> > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Pastor Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Price board said "Tires mounted $36 (+$20 if you supply the tire)" > > >> > It's a half hour job. That's $92 / hour. But that is not enough money > >> > for us so we'll slap on another 20 buck fee. Suppose Eye Masters > >> > said, since you did not get your prescription here, there is a $20 fee? > >> > Ron > > >> > -----Original > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
