Buy black pipes of witch ever brand you like
Then take them to a reputable shop to have
Them ceramic coated
This will give you long years of service
Make sure they shoot down inside the inlet
Where the pipe bends off the head

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:30 AM
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hello!

I bet the supertrapps sound amazing on a Honda V4.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Kurt Nolte 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Allen: I haven't worked with a MAC setup, but your comments mirror others.

It's possible that my V&H set was abused, but as you say it is thin walled pipe.

My personal preference is for stock pipes, but I'm admittedly a purist who 
rides purely for pleasure. Weight doesn't bother me nearly as much as pitch and 
volume, so most aftermarket stuff holds no appeal. I do like the SuperTrapps on 
the Viffer though. Do like indeed.

Kurt
On Feb 10, 2016 10:45 AM, "Allen Thomas" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for your Input Kurt, I can only talk to what I have seen, it is good to 
know you had a different experience.

Both of the MACs systems I have dealt with (painted and chromed) rusted badly 
on the down pipes, and are loud too. The V&H Javier put on his bike just blued 
the pipes (they are single walled pipe), but they didn't develop any rust and 
seemed to have pretty decent chrome overall (not as good as stock though). The 
sound at idle and low speed wasn't too loud, but if you wind it up she will 
sing to you.

Javier, since you have been forced to store your NH outside the last two 
winters have you had any rust issues with your V&H pipes?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Kurt Nolte 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The V&H that was on my 750 when I bought it was rusty through the chrome all 
over the pipes. Not sure how old it was, though.

I'm sure some of this stuff is pretty hit and miss, but I wouldn't personally 
look at any aftermarket set of pipes as anything other than a good candidate 
for a coating from a good shop.

Kurt
On Feb 10, 2016 9:21 AM, "Allen Thomas" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You should know that the MACs pipes are not as nice as the Vance & Hines pipes. 
If you get the painted MACs exhaust expect to repaint them every other year. 
Also the chrome plating is thin and will rust through fairly easily. The V&H 
pipes have a nice and thick chrome plating that looks good for years.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:04 AM, The Sober Sous Chef _ 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for the input. Wife gave me the go-ahead so new pipes here I come!

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