Like UPS batteries that aren't monitored, I expect to replace most hard drives every 3 years, like it or not. Some last MUCH longer, some not-so-much.
Over the years WD has been good, then very bad, now, pretty good again. Seagate was the golden child at one time, then they sent out a horrible batch, not OK again. Right now everyone is trying to get away from round-brown-and-and spinning, and even more so long-brown-and-on-spools. Still tapes have their place, hard drives are pretty good, solid stat drives are getting better (remember 'bubble memory' that was to replace everything?), and now the 'magic cloud' (don't get me started). To understand what really happens to drives and what happens as they age, give a serious read to the blog from backblaze.com. It is all round-brown-and-spinning and a lot of it. But they mostly have opened their informatoin without to much bias. On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Paul Tabolinsky <[email protected]> wrote: > I do'know but every WD HDD is still here and working except one suspected to > fail soon. > It makes a little funny noise. It's been three years ago it started the > noise thing. > It was data backed up and I shutdown the system since I bought a new PC that > contains a WD drive. I've had good luck with WD. > tabo > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Hart <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> And perfect timing. If you don't like WD, heres another option on sale. >> Seagate drive. Have 0 experience with these, just saw them on sale. >> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-External-Desktop-Storage-Photography/dp/B01HD6ZLQ6 >> >> -- >> -Kevin >> >> "You can't turn a pig into a thoroughbred, >> but if you spend enough time and money, >> you sure can make a mighty fast pig" >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:13 PM Allen Minix <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Three reasons I'll never go with WD: >>> >>> 1. Of all the years I've dealt with enterprise class gear, whether >>> server, NAS or SAN, I've seen everything from Hitachis to Seagate and even a >>> few rot gut IBM DeskStar's. Never have I seen WD drives in use. >>> >>> 2. When destroying old drives, most any other brand required either a >>> BFH or a drill press to properly destroy the drive. WD took a light drop >>> from about three feet to get that lovely broken glass sound from the >>> innards. >>> >>> 3. Every WD drive I've ever owned has failed within a 1 to 2 year >>> period. YMMV. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've had really bad luck with Western Digital, to the point where I will >>>> not willingly buy one of their drives again. >>>> >>>> I have had drives fail literally a few weeks after the warranty expired, >>>> and there was no way to recover anything. >>>> >>>> Steer clear of them if at all possible. >>>> >>>> -Alex Smith, Server+, Network+, MCP, MTA >>>> >>>> " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, >>>> the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all >>>> irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and >>>> warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all >>>> damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG >>>> episode "The Drumhead" >>>> - Alex Smith >>>> - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area) >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Mark J. Bailey <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> More times than not, a failed external drive has failed because of USB >>>>> piece and not the drive itself. I’ve busted many a “failed” USB drive out >>>>> of >>>>> its external USB chassis and it would work fine directly connected with >>>>> SATA. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But more to your point, I’ve had decent luck with the more recent >>>>> Seagate Backup+ Desk units (black chassis with a blue “bottom” side). >>>>> I’ve >>>>> got several that I’ve had in use for at least a couple of years, and, >>>>> knock >>>>> on wood, they’re still kicking. BYMMV >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>>> Of Paul Boniol >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:12 PM >>>>> To: NLUG <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [nlug] Hard Drives >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Considering buying an external hard drive, primary use would be DVR >>>>> (from Mythbuntu). Any preferences between Western Digital and Segate? >>>>> I've >>>>> seen about as many reviews saying "this drive failed after x months, lost >>>>> my >>>>> data, had to spend hours on the phone, and I had to pay shipping to get it >>>>> replaced under warranty" on both. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've been considering a new computer as the existing is many years old >>>>> now, and had some issues turning it on occasionally when it gets turned >>>>> off. >>>>> (So power supply likely starting to go.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "NLUG" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "NLUG" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by >>>>> E.F.A. 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