Thus said Ken Hornstein on Wed, 06 Nov 2024 18:04:29 -0500: > >As I stated before, I completely agree with Ralph's assessment (I > >think it was Ralph) that nmh should do nothing do address this. But > >that then leaves the question, what should be done. > > I am a LITTLE confused by this sentiment. You want nmh to do nothing, > but you wrote a patch for it?
At the time that wrote the patch I was convinced that nmh should deal with this better and that's why I fussed over it. After time and discussion I changed my mind and started working with the organization that is sending bad emails. So far I've had little success, mostly because the people responsible for generating the emails are extremely "shielded" and I cannot seem to get ahold of anyone technical enough to understand the problem. I've spoken with numerous people in the organization, but nobody knows how to escalate it to the next level. That being said, I don't have a problem with having a "fix" in nmh for this, I'm just no longer clamoring that it *must* be done. I am, after all, running my own patch. Also, at the time, from what I could tell, the organization that is sending me these poorly formatted emails was the only one and the emails that they sent me were not important enough for me to care that much. Now I see that we have yet another sender (ups.com) that has suddenly started getting away with sending such garbage (computational garbage). > I think part of it was that there was a bug in your original patch and > it got fixed but it seemed like it needed some more testing and at > least I forgot about it. Yes, there was a bad bug in my original which I did correct. I've been running my final version of the patch for as long as it has existed; in fact, the only reason why I can share statistics about emails with long lines that I've received is because of this patch. I just apply the patch locally to my system. I'm only one person though and so a measure of one, and the email ecosystem is vast and so it definitely could use more testing (people who are willing to risk losing or corrupted emails). Maybe Stephen would be willing to apply my patch and see how it goes in his environment? Also, I'm not opposed to some other solution to patching inc than my code. I take little pride in it. It's a sad "fix" for a lame problem that shouldn't exist. Is there perhaps a public mailing list that discusses email issues like this where we could actually get some voice that would be recognized by big players? Something like NANOG? I think it would be interesting to solicit some observations of others outside the nmh community about violations of the relevant RFCs and what to do about said violations. Is nmh really that wrong? Andy
