ok i understand what your saying about the hidden children view - i
guess i never used quicken that way -- i used the categories once a
month for a work expense report, and once a year or so for taxes /
reviewing my budget... i can adapt (i swear *wink) - i liked how
uncluttered the hidden view was.
(still dont get the point of the amount - but i am giving up :) )

- the issue remains with the splits even after i unhide them... i am
not comfortable sending my document... but i can send screen shots.
(total amount goes to parent split, the two other splits show empty...
(they show now but greyed out).
mary lou (ciara)

On Jan 23, 8:47 am, Kevin Hoctor <ke...@nothirst.com> wrote:
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 5:35 AM, ciara belle wrote:
>
> > Thank you Blair - i do understand that is how it is designed.. however
> > i stand firm in that i feel its incorrect in its design - in that if i
> > click on a split transaction - than the info above should change.
>
> The split transactions will get a new entry panel in 2.0 but this view  
> will probably stay the same because the split child list is actually a  
> sub-list to the transaction shown and not a parent list for the  
> transactions in it.
>
> > I
> > always keep my register view hiding splits (just showing total of
> > transaction) - because in the long run - that is the AMOUNT i am out..
> > the split is moot.   therefore - i never see the child / parent
> > relationship  - and really dont think i need to as a user of the app.
> > Hopefully, these concerns will be addressed in 1.5
>
> And by doing this you are ruining the concept of an envelope budgeting  
> system. Let me explain it this way: What do you see when you run a  
> category report or drill down in a pie chart in Quicken? Do you see  
> the total transaction amount or the individual split amounts? You see  
> the latter because that correct for the report you are viewing.
>
> Now in MoneyWell, you don't need to run a report just to see your  
> category (bucket) breakdown. The main view *IS* the report and it's  
> always updated and one click away from giving you this information.  
> The only reason that most of us need to see the transaction total  
> instead of the individual split amounts is when we are comparing to a  
> bank statement during the reconcile process and MoneyWell  
> automatically switches your view in that case.
>
> This will not change in 1.5 or 2.0 because it would ruin the core  
> design of MoneyWell. It's meant to be a very interactive financial  
> tool and replace the old budget cycle of plan-spend-report-review with  
> a more proactive plan-review-spend process.
>
>
>
> > I also have other transactions that are properly split (i started
> > another thread a week ago and i am still awaiting response) but for
> > some reason only 1 of the splits shows up in buckets.. (they are all
> > assigned buckets)... and its assigning the Total of the whole
> > transaction to that parent split bucket -rather than the parent split
> > amount.  This last issue i NEED fixed as its messing up the bucket
> > allocations..
>
> If you are hiding the split children, then you will have a problem  
> like you describe. That's why this view option is so hidden, I only  
> put it in MoneyWell as a "if you insist on seeing the list this way"  
> type view. I don't recommend using it consistently. If turning off  
> this view option doesn't fix this problem, then please send your  
> MoneyWell document to ke...@nothirst.com with a description of exactly  
> what transaction is not showing up correctly and I'll review it. Thanks.
>
> Peace,
>
> Kevin Hoctor
> ke...@nothirst.com
> No Thirst Software LLChttp://nothirst.comhttp://kevinhoctor.blogspot.com
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