ok so turning that off (also) changes the buckets completely.  sorry i
dont agree w that methodology - whether or not the total is shown -
the money allocation remains the same... but if i show totals rather
than breakdown amounts it assigns the money wrong.  (i am referring to
the 'unhiden' optional of hide vs show split totals...the hidden
option is off already)
3 buckets - 100, 30, 50 - total amount of cheque is 180
if i show totals - 180 goes to fuel - rest of buckets are blank
if i turn off show totals - 100 fuel, 50 cable, 30 internet

I have verified this - i selected the fuel bucket - w/ show split
total selected - it shows 180 in the fuel
w/ Hide split totals in effect - fuel bucket shows 100.

sorry but i think regardless of 'view' data should not change - 'view'
is a view - not a movement of funds from one bucket to another...
i sent you screen shots.

mary lou
v 1.4.2. (217)


On Jan 24, 10:04 am, Kevin Hoctor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mary Lou,
>
> Make sure you turn off the Show Split Totals option in the View menu  
> (don't hold the Option key down to see this command).
>
> If you have screenshots to share, please send then to my private  
> address, [email protected]. Thanks.
>
> Peace,
>
> Kevin Hoctor
> No Thirst Software LLChttp://nothirst.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 24, 2009, at 7:06 AM, ciara belle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > ok i understand what your saying about the hidden children view - i
> > guess i never used quicken that way -- i used the categories once a
> > month for a work expense report, and once a year or so for taxes /
> > reviewing my budget... i can adapt (i swear *wink) - i liked how
> > uncluttered the hidden view was.
> > (still dont get the point of the amount - but i am giving up :) )
>
> > - the issue remains with the splits even after i unhide them... i am
> > not comfortable sending my document... but i can send screen shots.
> > (total amount goes to parent split, the two other splits show empty...
> > (they show now but greyed out).
> > mary lou (ciara)
>
> > On Jan 23, 8:47 am, Kevin Hoctor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Jan 23, 2009, at 5:35 AM, ciara belle wrote:
>
> >>> Thank you Blair - i do understand that is how it is designed..  
> >>> however
> >>> i stand firm in that i feel its incorrect in its design - in that  
> >>> if i
> >>> click on a split transaction - than the info above should change.
>
> >> The split transactions will get a new entry panel in 2.0 but this  
> >> view
> >> will probably stay the same because the split child list is  
> >> actually a
> >> sub-list to the transaction shown and not a parent list for the
> >> transactions in it.
>
> >>> I
> >>> always keep my register view hiding splits (just showing total of
> >>> transaction) - because in the long run - that is the AMOUNT i am  
> >>> out..
> >>> the split is moot.   therefore - i never see the child / parent
> >>> relationship  - and really dont think i need to as a user of the  
> >>> app.
> >>> Hopefully, these concerns will be addressed in 1.5
>
> >> And by doing this you are ruining the concept of an envelope  
> >> budgeting
> >> system. Let me explain it this way: What do you see when you run a
> >> category report or drill down in a pie chart in Quicken? Do you see
> >> the total transaction amount or the individual split amounts? You see
> >> the latter because that correct for the report you are viewing.
>
> >> Now in MoneyWell, you don't need to run a report just to see your
> >> category (bucket) breakdown. The main view *IS* the report and it's
> >> always updated and one click away from giving you this information.
> >> The only reason that most of us need to see the transaction total
> >> instead of the individual split amounts is when we are comparing to a
> >> bank statement during the reconcile process and MoneyWell
> >> automatically switches your view in that case.
>
> >> This will not change in 1.5 or 2.0 because it would ruin the core
> >> design of MoneyWell. It's meant to be a very interactive financial
> >> tool and replace the old budget cycle of plan-spend-report-review  
> >> with
> >> a more proactive plan-review-spend process.
>
> >>> I also have other transactions that are properly split (i started
> >>> another thread a week ago and i am still awaiting response) but for
> >>> some reason only 1 of the splits shows up in buckets.. (they are all
> >>> assigned buckets)... and its assigning the Total of the whole
> >>> transaction to that parent split bucket -rather than the parent  
> >>> split
> >>> amount.  This last issue i NEED fixed as its messing up the bucket
> >>> allocations..
>
> >> If you are hiding the split children, then you will have a problem
> >> like you describe. That's why this view option is so hidden, I only
> >> put it in MoneyWell as a "if you insist on seeing the list this way"
> >> type view. I don't recommend using it consistently. If turning off
> >> this view option doesn't fix this problem, then please send your
> >> MoneyWell document to [email protected] with a description of  
> >> exactly
> >> what transaction is not showing up correctly and I'll review it.  
> >> Thanks.
>
> >> Peace,
>
> >> Kevin Hoctor
> >> [email protected]
> >> No Thirst Software LLChttp://nothirst.comhttp://
> >> kevinhoctor.blogspot.com
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