most voted to raise the NCR but the # differed.  Therefore we are now voting on 
what 2 make the max.   ROBERT

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Gary Brown <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NCR input
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:41:06 -0800 (PST)


I don't think it is all the non playoff teams fault.  The playoff teams seem to 
have a better core of players with plenty of AB at each position.  As with my 
team I took over last year(Norfolk), I have been struggling to get good 
starting players at each position because when we are able to keep 30 players.  
It will take a number of years to rebuild when 30+ players are protected.  
There are teams with 2-3 top starters at 1 position can sit on these player 
without having to play them or play them out of position.  I understand if a 
emergency situation come up to play someone out of position, but a manager 
played a player only rated at 3B at 4 other positions 2B, SS, LF, and RF.  MLB 
does use some players like this, but not like some managers use them.   Thats 
why there are utility players with many fielding ratings. If the cut down was 
to 20 with the max NCR the manager wants to protect, then a wider range of 
players will be in the draft every year.  Every managers would have to be more 
selective on which players they want as their core 20.  My 2&#65533;. 
GaryNorfolk

--- On Sat, 12/31/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NCR input
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 11:55 AM

I would be curious, Robert, seems like teams who made playoffs are voting 
against raising it to 8 saying it would not help the teams not making playoffs  
WHILE the teams like me know otherwise who did not make playoffs. I suggest 
listening to the teams that do not make playoffs on whether or not 8 NCRs would 
help a non playoff team.   Who can not field team with 33 players to cover 
usage all season? Teams that are under AB and IP really have no excuse 
considering all the playing time available from players left in draft. The 
amount of NCRs available at 8 make no difference. Usage problems are separate 
issues. I could assemble a team each year made up of 33 players left in draft 
after completed that could meet our usage requirements for season. Blaming NCRs 
will not solve the problem of overusage. It is a DRAFTING problem. Drafting a 
catcher with 41 ABs when you need one with 200 ABs who is available is the 
problem. I would like to address usage problems as well but veiling it as an 
NCR problem is wrong way to look at it. There are SIMPLE draft rules in other 
leagues that could solve problem in our league, such as all usage required must 
be taken in draft by end of 8th round. Anyway, I would say nothing except I saw 
a trend of playoff teams almost all going against an increase in NCRs. Also, I 
almost have ALL my player usage covered with my roster already of 25 players 
like major leagues do. I only need to draft 3 relievers somewhere and I can 
draft 9 other guys no matter how much playing time they have based on future 
potential. Research has shown that it takes 4 years average for a team to 
rebuild and be competitive in a healthy league our size. I am suspicious of 
leagues that have same people in playoffs or first place for 10 years straight. 
It does not mean something is wrong, after all there are superior players. But 
all other leagues I know and have played in do not have dynasties. Do the rules 
in this league favor playoff teams that are making decisions for non playoff 
teams on how to rebuild? Anyway, either way, I get youth from NCRs or low 
innings and AB guys because I take the time to make SURE I have playing time 
covered BEFORE the draft. I just find usage problems interesting. The rules our 
league have for usage are MINIMUM levels, not RECOMMENDED levels. I live to 
exceed those limits. What needs to be increased is either the minimum levels of 
usage or allowing players to be used at 110% of MLB. Anyway, too much talk, I 
just been working so hard and will finally have a day off Monday to relax and 
pick up pieces for 2012. We have a water leak and the guy can't come to fix it 
till Monday. It is a trickle but nothing we can do. Whatever the NCR limits are 
works for me.  If I was commish (HERE COMES REASON I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY 
DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITIES) After draft I would calculate usage and if a 
team did NOT have enough usage I would require them to DROP an NCR and replace 
him with a carded guy who gives him enough usage. If people still overuse after 
starting the season with required usage on their roster which must be 
maintained after trades then usage rule is too LOW!
This is not rocket science or string theory. Even Penny could figure this out.
thanksray
BKN

-----Original Message-----
From: suelou22 <[email protected]>
To: nombl <[email protected]>
Cc: john arcieri <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 9:53 am
Subject: Re: NCR input

 This is the main reason we should not increase the NC players..we need to 
draft more players with IP or ABs to get through the season in 
respectability.....Lou---- john arcieri <[email protected]> wrote: > My inputis 
 it should go up to 6 NCR since we have 41 man roster.  Also have you thought 
about a throw back draft.  A throw back draft is the next day after the draft 
you are allowed to drop 1 player and pick up 1 player that wasn't drafted.  
This gives teams that are under ABs or IPs to pick up a player they need for 
usage.  It would be a e-mail draft first e-mail sent gets that player.  It 
seems like every year a few teams have not enough ABs and IPs.  John > > > > 
________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, December 30, 
2011 1:26 PM > Subject: NCR input > > > would anyone else like to voice their 
thoughts on uncarded players (anyone concidered carded - under 10 PA or ip) or 
NCR (players still concider rookies not meeting the limits of NOMBL)? > > 
ROBERT > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] > Subject: bkn drops, draft picks, ncr, roster, NCR 
input > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:13:25 -0500 (EST) > > > NOMBL DROPS > 1. 
RUSSELL BRANYAN > 2.  TIM BYRDAK > 3.  MATT DIAZ > 4.  BILL HALL > 5. AARON 
HILL > 6. BRANDON INGE > 7. RYAN KALISH > 8. VIN MAZZARO > 9. COREY PATTERSON > 
10. MATT PURKE (ncr) > 11. MAX RAMIREZ > 12. BKN#10 DRAFT PICK >   > MY DRAFT 
PICKS(12)- BKN #1-9, NEW #5, BUZZ #6, #7 >   > ROSTER (29) >   > NCR (4) > 1. 
GERRIT COLE > 2. BRYCE HARPER > 3. JURICKSON PROFAR > 4. GEORGE SPRINGER >   >  
 > HITTERS (15) > 1. CLINT BARMES > 2. PETER BOURJOS > 3.  JAMEY CARROLL > 4.  
IKE DAVIS > 5.  ADAM JONES > 6.  JONATHON LUCROY > 7.  JESUS MONTERO > 8.  
LOGAN MORRISON > 9.  SEAN RODRIGUEZ > 10.  JIMMY ROLLINS > 11.  CARLOS RUIZ > 
12.  GABBY SANCHEZ > 13.  NICK SWISHER > 14.  JOSH WILLINGHAM > 15.  KEVIN 
YOUKILIS >   > PITCHERS  (10) > 1. CLAY BUCHHOLZ > 2.  JHOULYS CHACIN > 3.  
DEREK HOLLAND > 4.  KAMERON LOE > 5. KYLE LOHSE > 6.  JAMES SHIELDS > 7.  TIM 
STAUFFER > 8.  JOSE VALVERDE > 9.  RYAN WEBB > 10.  KERRY WOOD > as a team we 
would be in favor of increasing our NCRs allowed to 8. > >   > ray > BKN > > >  
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