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-----Original Message-----
From: vasquires <[email protected]>
To: nombl <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 8:16 am
Subject: NCR increaded?


most voted to raise the NCR but the # differed.  Therefore we are now voting on 
what 2 make the max. 
 
 
ROBERT

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Gary Brown <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NCR input
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:41:06 -0800 (PST)





I don't think it is all the non playoff teams fault.  The playoff teams seem to 
have a better core of players with plenty of AB at each position.  As with my 
team I took over last year(Norfolk), I have been struggling to get good 
starting players at each position because when we are able to keep 30 players.  
It will take a number of years to rebuild when 30+ players are protected. 
 
There are teams with 2-3 top starters at 1 position can sit on these player 
without having to play them or play them out of position.  I understand if a 
emergency situation come up to play someone out of position, but a manager 
played a player only rated at 3B at 4 other positions 2B, SS, LF, and RF.  MLB 
does use some players like this, but not like some managers use them.   Thats 
why there are utility players with many fielding ratings.
 
If the cut down was to 20 with the max NCR the manager wants to protect, then a 
wider range of players will be in the draft every year.  Every managers would 
have to be more selective on which players they want as their core 20.  My 2�.
 
Gary
Norfolk


--- On Sat, 12/31/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NCR input
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 11:55 AM


I would be curious, Robert, seems like teams who made playoffs are voting 
against raising it to 8 saying it would not help the teams not making playoffs
 
 WHILE the teams like me know otherwise who did not make playoffs. I suggest 
listening to the teams that do not make playoffs on whether or not 8 NCRs would 
help a non playoff team. 
 
 Who can not field team with 33 players to cover usage all season? Teams that 
are under AB and IP really have no excuse considering all the playing time 
available from players left in draft. The amount of NCRs available at 8 make no 
difference. Usage problems are separate issues. I could assemble a team each 
year made up of 33 players left in draft after completed that could meet our 
usage requirements for season. Blaming NCRs will not solve the problem of 
overusage. It is a DRAFTING problem. Drafting a catcher with 41 ABs when you 
need one with 200 ABs who is available is the problem. I would like to address 
usage problems as well but veiling it as an NCR problem is wrong way to look at 
it. There are SIMPLE draft rules in other leagues that could solve problem in 
our league, such as all usage required must be taken in draft by end of 8th 
round.
 
Anyway, I would say nothing except I saw a trend of playoff teams almost all 
going against an increase in NCRs.
 
Also, I almost have ALL my player usage covered with my roster already of 25 
players like major leagues do. I only need to draft 3 relievers somewhere and I 
can draft 9 other guys no matter how much playing time they have based on 
future potential.
 
Research has shown that it takes 4 years average for a team to rebuild and be 
competitive in a healthy league our size. I am suspicious of leagues that have 
same people in playoffs or first place for 10 years straight. It does not mean 
something is wrong, after all there are superior players. But all other leagues 
I know and have played in do not have dynasties. Do the rules in this league 
favor playoff teams that are making decisions for non playoff teams on how to 
rebuild?
 
Anyway, either way, I get youth from NCRs or low innings and AB guys because I 
take the time to make SURE I have playing time covered BEFORE the draft. I just 
find usage problems interesting. The rules our league have for usage are 
MINIMUM levels, not RECOMMENDED levels. I live to exceed those limits. What 
needs to be increased is either the minimum levels of usage or allowing players 
to be used at 110% of MLB. Anyway, too much talk, I just been working so hard 
and will finally have a day off Monday to relax and pick up pieces for 2012. We 
have a water leak and the guy can't come to fix it till Monday. It is a trickle 
but nothing we can do.
 
Whatever the NCR limits are works for me.  If I was commish (HERE COMES REASON 
I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY DECISION MAKING RESPONSIBILITIES) After draft I would 
calculate usage and if a team did NOT have enough usage I would require them to 
DROP an NCR and replace him with a carded guy who gives him enough usage. If 
people still overuse after starting the season with required usage on their 
roster which must be maintained after trades then usage rule is too LOW!
This is not rocket science or string theory. Even Penny could figure this out.

thanks

ray
BKN



-----Original Message-----
From: suelou22 <[email protected]>
To: nombl <[email protected]>
Cc: john arcieri <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 9:53 am
Subject: Re: NCR input


 This is the main reason we should not increase the NC players..we need to 
draft more players with IP or ABs to get through the season in 
respectability.....Lou---- john arcieri <[email protected]> wrote: > My inputis 
 it should go up to 6 NCR since we have 41 man roster.  Also have you thought 
about a throw back draft.  A throw back draft is the next day after the draft 
you are allowed to drop 1 player and pick up 1 player that wasn't drafted.  
This gives teams that are under ABs or IPs to pick up a player they need for 
usage.  It would be a e-mail draft first e-mail sent gets that player.  It 
seems like every year a few teams have not enough ABs and IPs.  John > > > > 
________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, December 30, 
2011 1:26 PM > Subject: NCR input > > > would anyone else like to voice their 
thoughts on uncarded players (anyone concidered carded - under 10 PA or ip) or 
NCR (players still concider rookies not meeting the limits of NOMBL)? > > 
ROBERT > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] > Subject: bkn drops, draft picks, ncr, roster, NCR 
input > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:13:25 -0500 (EST) > > > NOMBL DROPS > 1. 
RUSSELL BRANYAN > 2.  TIM BYRDAK > 3.  MATT DIAZ > 4.  BILL HALL > 5. AARON 
HILL > 6. BRANDON INGE > 7. RYAN KALISH > 8. VIN MAZZARO > 9. COREY PATTERSON > 
10. MATT PURKE (ncr) > 11. MAX RAMIREZ > 12. BKN#10 DRAFT PICK >   > MY DRAFT 
PICKS(12)- BKN #1-9, NEW #5, BUZZ #6, #7 >   > ROSTER (29) >   > NCR (4) > 1. 
GERRIT COLE > 2. BRYCE HARPER > 3. JURICKSON PROFAR > 4. GEORGE SPRINGER >   >  
 > HITTERS (15) > 1. CLINT BARMES > 2. PETER BOURJOS > 3.  JAMEY CARROLL > 4.  
IKE DAVIS > 5.  ADAM JONES > 6.  JONATHON LUCROY > 7.  JESUS MONTERO > 8.  
LOGAN MORRISON > 9.  SEAN RODRIGUEZ > 10.  JIMMY ROLLINS > 11.  CARLOS RUIZ > 
12.  GABBY SANCHEZ > 13.  NICK SWISHER > 14.  JOSH WILLINGHAM > 15.  KEVIN 
YOUKILIS >   > PITCHERS  (10) > 1. CLAY BUCHHOLZ > 2.  JHOULYS CHACIN > 3.  
DEREK HOLLAND > 4.  KAMERON LOE > 5. KYLE LOHSE > 6.  JAMES SHIELDS > 7.  TIM 
STAUFFER > 8.  JOSE VALVERDE > 9.  RYAN WEBB > 10.  KERRY WOOD > as a team we 
would be in favor of increasing our NCRs allowed to 8. > >   > ray > BKN > > >  
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