Hi
      If we expand the # of NCR's will the rosters  expand by a similar 
number ? If not we will run into some of the problems that  were described 
earlier. If we do expand rosters then we will need  to change our cuts.
      Some of the early draft pick teams are  badly in need of AB's and 
IP's and wouldn't benefit so much if at all.  Leaving one more blue chip 
prospect for the rest of us. Kinda like our tax  and banking situation.   
 
  Buffalo votes to raise NCR's to 7 but only if  roster expands to 42 
otherwise we would vote no at  this time.
 
           Blaine
 
 
 a message dated 1/9/2012 8:16:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:
 
most voted to raise the NCR but the # differed.  Therefore we are  now 
voting on what 2 make the max. 
 
 
ROBERT

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Gary Brown  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:  NCR input
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:41:06 -0800 (PST)

I don't think it is all the non playoff teams fault.  The  playoff teams 
seem to have a better core of players with plenty of  AB at each position.  As 
with my team I took over last  year(Norfolk), I have been struggling to get 
good starting players at  each position because when we are able to keep 30 
players.  It will  take a number of years to rebuild when 30+ players are  
protected. 
 
There are teams with 2-3 top starters at 1 position can sit on  these 
player without having to play them or play them out of  position.  I understand 
if a emergency situation come up to play  someone out of position, but a 
manager played a player only rated  at 3B at 4 other positions 2B, SS, LF, and 
RF.  MLB does use  some players like this, but not like some managers use 
them.    Thats why there are utility players with many fielding ratings.
 
If the cut down was to 20 with the max NCR the  manager wants to protect, 
then a wider range of players will be in  the draft every year.  Every 
managers would have to be more  selective on which players they want as their 
core 
20.  My  2�.
 
Gary
Norfolk


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From:  [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NCR  input
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, December 31,  2011, 11:55 AM


I would be curious, Robert, seems like teams who made playoffs  are voting 
against raising it to 8 saying it would not help the teams  not making 
playoffs
 
 WHILE the teams like me know otherwise who did not make  playoffs. I 
suggest listening to the teams that do not make playoffs  on whether or not 8 
NCRs would help a non playoff  team. 
 
 Who can not field team with 33 players to cover usage all  season? Teams 
that are under AB and IP really have no excuse  considering all the playing 
time available from players left in draft.  The amount of NCRs available at 8 
make no difference. Usage problems  are separate issues. I could assemble a 
team each year made up of 33  players left in draft after completed that 
could meet our usage  requirements for season. Blaming NCRs will not solve the 
problem of  overusage. It is a DRAFTING problem. Drafting a catcher with 41 
ABs  when you need one with 200 ABs who is available is the problem. I  
would like to address usage problems as well but veiling it as an NCR  problem 
is wrong way to look at it. There are SIMPLE draft rules in  other leagues 
that could solve problem in our league, such as all  usage required must be 
taken in draft by end of 8th round.
 
Anyway, I would say nothing except I saw a trend of playoff teams  almost 
all going against an increase in NCRs.
 
Also, I almost have ALL my player usage covered with my roster  already of 
25 players like major leagues do. I only need to draft 3  relievers 
somewhere and I can draft 9 other guys no matter how  much playing time they 
have 
based on future potential.
 
Research has shown that it takes 4 years average for a team to  rebuild and 
be competitive in a healthy league our size. I am  suspicious of leagues 
that have same people in playoffs or first place  for 10 years straight. It 
does not mean something is wrong, after all  there are superior players. But 
all other leagues I know and have  played in do not have dynasties. Do the 
rules in this league favor  playoff teams that are making decisions for non 
playoff teams on how  to rebuild?
 
Anyway, either way, I get youth from NCRs or low innings and AB  guys 
because I take the time to make SURE I have playing time covered  BEFORE the 
draft. I just find usage problems interesting. The rules  our league have for 
usage are MINIMUM levels, not RECOMMENDED levels.  I live to exceed those 
limits. What needs to be increased is either  the minimum levels of usage or 
allowing players to be used at 110% of  MLB. Anyway, too much talk, I just been 
working so hard and will  finally have a day off Monday to relax and pick 
up pieces for 2012. We  have a water leak and the guy can't come to fix it 
till Monday. It is  a trickle but nothing we can do.
 
Whatever the NCR limits are works for me.  If I was commish  (HERE COMES 
REASON I SHOULD NEVER HAVE ANY DECISION MAKING  RESPONSIBILITIES) After draft 
I would calculate usage and if a team  did NOT have enough usage I would 
require them to DROP an NCR and  replace him with a carded guy who gives him 
enough usage. If people  still overuse after starting the season with required 
usage on their  roster which must be maintained after trades then usage 
rule is too  LOW!
This is not rocket science or string theory. Even Penny could  figure this 
out.

thanks
 
ray
BKN



-----Original  Message-----
From: suelou22 <[email protected]>
To: nombl  <[email protected]>
Cc: john arcieri  <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 9:53  am
Subject: Re: NCR input


 This is the main reason we should not increase the NC players..we need to 
draft more players with IP or ABs to get through the season in 
respectability.....Lou---- john arcieri <[email protected]_ 
(http://us.mc1810.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]) > wrote: > My 
inputis  it should go up 
to 6 NCR since we have 41 man roster.  Also have you thought about a throw 
back draft.  A throw back draft is the next day after the draft you are 
allowed to drop 1 player and pick up 1 player that wasn't drafted.  This gives 
teams that are under ABs or IPs to pick up a player they need for usage.  It 
would be a e-mail draft first e-mail sent gets that player.  It seems like 
every year a few teams have not enough ABs and IPs.  John > > > > 
________________________________ > From: "[email protected]_ 
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Friday, December 30, 2011 1:26 PM > Subject: NCR input > 
> > would anyone else like to voice their thoughts on uncarded players 
(anyone concidered carded - under 10 PA or ip) or NCR (players still concider 
rookies not meeting the limits of NOMBL)? > > ROBERT > > ---------- Forwarded 
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16:13:25 -0500 (EST) > > > NOMBL DROPS > 1. RUSSELL BRANYAN > 2.  TIM BYRDAK > 
3.  
MATT DIAZ > 4.  BILL HALL > 5. AARON HILL > 6. BRANDON INGE > 7. RYAN KALISH 
> 8. VIN MAZZARO > 9. COREY PATTERSON > 10. MATT PURKE (ncr) > 11. MAX 
RAMIREZ > 12. BKN#10 DRAFT PICK >   > MY DRAFT PICKS(12)- BKN #1-9, NEW #5, 
BUZZ 
#6, #7 >   > ROSTER (29) >   > NCR (4) > 1. GERRIT COLE > 2. BRYCE HARPER > 
3. JURICKSON PROFAR > 4. GEORGE SPRINGER >   >   > HITTERS (15) > 1. CLINT 
BARMES > 2. PETER BOURJOS > 3.  JAMEY CARROLL > 4.  IKE DAVIS > 5.  ADAM 
JONES > 6.  JONATHON LUCROY > 7.  JESUS MONTERO > 8.  LOGAN MORRISON > 9.  SEAN 
RODRIGUEZ > 10.  JIMMY ROLLINS > 11.  CARLOS RUIZ > 12.  GABBY SANCHEZ > 
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VALVERDE > 9.  RYAN WEBB > 10.  KERRY WOOD > as a team we would be in favor of 
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