Quite.

Shouting at the referee may not be unusual in a football match but in a musical competition anything equivalent is certainly unacceptable. I was present at both recent Bellingham competitions and thought that the judging was extremely well conducted and immaculately fair in fairly adverse circumstances.

Difficult behaviour from is individuals accompanying a particular entrant presents a problem for competition stewards too. Usually there is only one individual, and despite their best efforts this may be insufficient to deal with an intrusive problem affecting the progress of the competition. Judges who have to make rapid, thoughtful and fair decisions are entitled to do so without harassment or intrusion. Perhaps competition rules need to take into account that under certain circumstances it is impossible to fairly award a competition place to a particular contestant. I am posing this as a question rather than a suggestion since I have never been in this difficult position. For those who already have, I have nothing but admiration.

Francis
On 13 Apr 2009, at 17:07, Chris Ormston wrote:

Andy May, Pauline Cato and I were discussing competitions at the Whitley Bay residential course last year, and we concluded that judging - a thankless
task in the best of circumstances - had become something of a poisoned
chalice at Bellingham, for the reasons already stated. If it is unfair to criticise a child on this forum, maybe attention should focus instead on
those who put her in this position - relatives, her tutor.

As a competition judge one strives to be supportive while maintaining the standards of piping one would expect in open competitions. Constant hassle
from individuals accompanying a particular entrant will not affect the
outcome of the competition and is not acceptable. What might influence the outcome of future competitions, though, would be for the entrant to take heed of the judge's advice. One finger off at a time would be a good start.

I look forward to the next broadcast of "Britain's Got Talent" with even
more trepidation than usual :-(

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: lisa ridley [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 13 April 2009 10:45
To: [email protected]; pipers list
Subject: [NSP] Re: Re:

Apologies, I was under the impression that the pipers list was a forum
  for self expression and discussion. I was not aware there was a
required censorship in case "the truth" about these pretenders reaches
  the "public" domain.
The Newcastle Journal is a publication with a weekly circulation of 289 000, and hence a VERY public forum, and I doubt this reporter stumbled
  upon this story herself but rather that it was fed to her. The
Bellingham show is also a public event and I have witnessed first hand the attempts by the child's family to compromise the integrity of the
  competition by niggling at the judges and making loud stage whispers
  from the audience "you were the best - you would have won if it he
(Chris Ormston) hadn't been judging". I'm told that Adrian Schofield was given an even more torrid time the previous year. Such behaviour
  is not worthy of our support.

  LR

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:48:33 +1200
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Subject: [NSP] Re:

I have often been misquoted in the press, to my embarrassment. I
  think we
need to be very careful not to be seen to be unsupportive in the
  public eye,
and this is after all a relatively public list.
Helen

----- Original Message -----
From: "lisa ridley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:59 AM



I'd like to share with you all some quotes from an article in the
Newcastle Journal newspaper about Jessica Lamb. The paper has an
article entitled "school girl piper Jessica a star in the making"

I picked them up and within no time at all I was playing a tune."
I could play by ear and I just took to them straight away. From
  there I
got better and better and now Im so proud of myself. Im brilliant
  and
Kathryn Tickell has high hopes for me."

Some of you may be aware of this 14 year old precocious nay
dillousional child. This is the child who has been repeatedly given
feedback by pipers who ARE brilliant and has ignored it; year on
  year
she has had the same feedback yet listening to the video attached
  to
the article is still ignoring it. Chris Ormston & Adrian Schofield
  have
both given this girl advice but clearly she feels she knows better
  than
those who are recognised by us all as true masters of the pipes.
  This
girl has a long,long way to go before she can claim to be
  "brilliant".


The comments of her mother (the typical pushy mother) show where
  the
girl gets it from - "Jessicas mum Catherine Lamb, 42, a nursery
  nurse,
said: As soon as Jessica picked up the Northumbrian pipes she was a
little genius. She could play a tune straight away. We just knew
  she
was going to be fantastic at it, she was a natural.""


The absurdity of the whole article is summed up by the papers
suggestion that the northumbrian pipes were an unknown instrument
  until
K Tickell came on the scene..................sums up their naiivety
really!


  [1]http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2009/04/11/
schoolgirl-piper-jessica-a-star-in-the-making-61634-23362451/




LR



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