Dear all, Though I may not be able to offer much in the way of piping experience as yet, I don't think it fair to call any style of playing any instrument 'incorrect' simply because it does not adhere rigidly to tradition. I play the trumpet as well as the NSP. Had it not been for certain groups of musicians breaking the rules because what resulted sounded good to them, the only style of trumpet playing would be baroque, and jazz would not exist (to give but one example).
I would hope the NSP community was receptive to the efforts of young players (I hope at 22 I can still call myself one) expressing themselves through their chosen instrument and working hard in order to do so. If not, this 'tradition' is indeed in real danger of dying out. Best regards, David Baker 2009/4/13 Chris Ormston <[1][email protected]> Colin, I beg to differ, for reasons I've stated here and elsewhere on numerous occasions. The traditional style of piping is being butchered by this new, Max Clifford approach to the music. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [2][email protected] [mailto:[3][email protected]] Sent: 13 April 2009 18:49 To: [4][email protected] Cc: [5][email protected] Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: Beware of the press. The same article had Katherine pictured in her usual langorous pose which even she might be getting a bit sick of by now. Whatever might be said of her and her style of piping you cannot deny she has ability in her fingering and compositional talents and if she keeps it up will be an asset to Northumbrian piping even if she does lift off more than one finger at a time and plays flat fingered. With Alice Burns she is providing the sound of the NPS on the Folk orchestra at a high level of performance. Colin Ross -----Original Message----- From: lisa ridley <[6][email protected]> To: [7][email protected]; pipers list <[8][email protected]> Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:40 Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: No I do not - curiousity sattisfied? My thoughts and concerns lie with the ridicule facing Northumbrian piping and the child herself as a consequence of publicity and unheeded advice. > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:05:00 +0200 > To: [9][email protected] > From: [10][email protected] > Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: > > > Just a tiny question, Lisa. You don't happen to have a child of your own who > enters NSP competitions, do you? Just curious. > > Cheers, > > Paul Gretton > > -----Original Message----- > From: lisa ridley [mailto:[11][email protected]] > Sent: 13 April 2009 11:45 > To: [12][email protected]; pipers list > Subject: [NSP] Re: Re: > > Apologies, I was under the impression that the pipers list was a forum > for self expression and discussion. I was not aware there was a > required censorship in case "the truth" about these pretenders reaches > the "public" domain. > The Newcastle Journal is a publication with a weekly circulation of 289 > 000, and hence a VERY public forum, and I doubt this reporter stumbled > upon this story herself but rather that it was fed to her. The > Bellingham show is also a public event and I have witnessed first hand > the attempts by the child's family to compromise the integrity of the > competition by niggling at the judges and making loud stage whispers > from the audience "you were the best - you would have won if it he > (Chris Ormston) hadn't been judging". I'm told that Adrian Schofield > was given an even more torrid time the previous year. Such behaviour > is not worthy of our support. > > LR > > > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:48:33 +1200 > > To: [13][email protected]; [14][email protected] > > From: [15][email protected] > > Subject: [NSP] Re: > > > > I have often been misquoted in the press, to my embarrassment. I > think we > > need to be very careful not to be seen to be unsupportive in the > public eye, > > and this is after all a relatively public list. > > Helen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lisa ridley" <[16][email protected]> > > To: <[17][email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to share with you all some quotes from an article in the > > > Newcastle Journal newspaper about Jessica Lamb. The paper has an > > > article entitled "school girl piper Jessica a star in the making" > > > > > > I picked them up and within no time at all I was playing a tune." > > > I could play by ear and I just took to them straight away. From > there I > > > got better and better and now Im so proud of myself. Im brilliant > and > > > Kathryn Tickell has high hopes for me." > > > > > > Some of you may be aware of this 14 year old precocious nay > > > dillousional child. This is the child who has been repeatedly given > > > feedback by pipers who ARE brilliant and has ignored it; year on > year > > > she has had the same feedback yet listening to the video attached > to > > > the article is still ignoring it. Chris Ormston & Adrian Schofield > have > > > both given this girl advice but clearly she feels she knows better > than > > > those who are recognised by us all as true masters of the pipes. > This > > > girl has a long,long way to go before she can claim to be > "brilliant". > > > > > > > > > The comments of her mother (the typical pushy mother) show where > the > > > girl gets it from - "Jessicas mum Catherine Lamb, 42, a nursery > nurse, > > > said: As soon as Jessica picked up the Northumbrian pipes she was a > > > little genius. She could play a tune straight away. We just knew > she > > > was going to be fantastic at it, she was a natural."" > > > > > > > > > The absurdity of the whole article is summed up by the papers > > > suggestion that the northumbrian pipes were an unknown instrument > until > > > K Tickell came on the scene..................sums up their naiivety > > > really! > > > > > > > [1][18]http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2009/04 /11/ > > > schoolgirl-piper-jessica-a-star-in-the-making-61634-23362451/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LR > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos Free. [2]Try it Now! -- > > > > > > References > > > > > > 1. > > > > [19]http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2009/04/11 /sch > oolgirl-piper-jessica-a-star-in-the-making-61634-23362451/ > > > 2. 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