I can not ping it.   And because I can not logon to the server, I can not 
troubleshoot the problem.  Out of my hands.. for now...

At 04:41 PM 10/17/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Considering that XP is not for server, you can't upgrade from NT4 Server to
>XP  ;)
>
>Just from NT4 workstation for XP...
>
>I think XP would say that he can't do an upgrade if it detects the operating
>system as NT4 Server.
>
>Your wonderfull and wise (and soon dead ;) ) network admin might have
>screwed up the server trying to push that upgrade!!
>
>Maybe he dis-joined the domain and puted the computer into a workgroup,  or
>altered the IP settings, and now the server doesn't comunicate... all
>thoughts!
>
>Can you at least PING the server from a client machine?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "NT 2000 Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:28 PM
>Subject: Re: From NT4 to XP...
>
>
> > XP is not for Server.
> >
> >
> > At 04:22 PM 10/17/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> > >is there a XP version of the Server Operating System?
> > >
> > >I thought there was only a Home and a Professional edition.
> > >
> > >also heard something about a 64-bit version to 64-bit systems....
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ed Esgro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "NT 2000 Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:20 PM
> > >Subject: RE: From NT4 to XP...
> > >
> > >
> > > > there are ways around the administrator password.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:17 AM
> > > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: From NT4 to XP...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well to make a long story short.  I have no idea what is going on at
>my
> > > > mom's place of business.  I looked at the server last night and it
>still
> > > > has NT 4 on it.  But nobody there knew the Administrator password to
>get
> > > > into it.  Their "computer expert" was gone for the day. (If is was up
>to
> > > > me, he would be gone permanently.)
> > > >
> > > > I guess they never successfully upgraded to XP.  XP could have checked
>the
> > > > current OS and found that it could not upgrade.  I am going to test
>that
> > > > here today, upgrade from NT Server to XP and see what happens.
> > > >
> > > > Problems they have:
> > > > Cannot login to the server.
> > > > Server is not on the network.
> > > >
> > > > Solution, other than hang their computer administrator,  call him and
>get
> > > > the password or do password recovery.  I offered to do password
>recover,
> > > > but they were going to try to contact their administrator first.  So I
>got
> > > > off the hook last night ;).
> > > >
> > > > Lets see if a get a phone call today...
> > > >
> > > > Jacob
> > > >
> > > > At 01:11 PM 10/16/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >It is probably the same person who could not figure out why they were
>not
> > > > >receiving email.  For three weeks, on and off, he could not fix
> > > > >it.  Nobody bothered to read the entire contents of the email when it
>was
> > > > >rejected are sent back to the sender.  Something about no DNS.  Took
>me
> > > > >about 30 seconds to figure that one out...
> > > > >
> > > > >So after I explained, on paper, what needed to be done, like contact
>AT&T
> > > > >about dong their DNS and MX records, they finally received email.  Of
> > > > >course I had no guts to charge my mom, but tonight is going to be
> > > > >different.  The company is going to get a bill from me. ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >Jacob
> > > > >
> > > > >At 04:02 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >>Must of been one of those ITT technical institute MCSE's that
>upgraded
> > > > your
> > > > >>mothers server.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > > >>To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > > >>Subject: RE: From NT4 to XP...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I view M$ site and it looks like XP is a upgrade for Windows 9X or
>NT 4
> > > > >>Workstation, not NT 4 Server.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I think the outcome may be a 16-lb sledgehammer...  or a fresh
>install
> > >of
> > > > >>NT.  I have a feeling I am going to find out what their backup
>process
> > >is
> > > > >>like also...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Jacob
> > > > >>
> > > > >>At 03:52 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >> >Well... it really depends on what was on the server before the
> > >upgrade.
> > > > You
> > > > >> >can upgrade, but you must have a few things in order first. I
>can't
> > > > imagine
> > > > >> >what was installed. Good luck I am curious to hear the outcome.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >> >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:46 PM
> > > > >> >To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > > >> >Subject: From NT4 to XP...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Okay.. I get a call from my mom, yes my mom,  that their server at
> > >work
> > > > is
> > > > >> >all "screwed up".  From what I gathered on the phone was that
>their
> > > > >> >"computer expert" the server from NT4 to XP. (I almost crashes my
>car
> > > > after
> > > > >> >hearing that.)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >So has anybody, or is it possible to upgrade from NT4 (unknown
>service
> > > > >> >pack) to XP ( unknown if beta or what)?  I am going to look at it
>in a
> > > > >> >couple of hours and I will post what I find tomorrow.  I already
>told
> > >
> > > > them
> > > > >> >not to allow anybody with 25 feet of the server until I get there.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Going to get a pint of Jack Daniels and some prozac first...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Jacob
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
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