I guess you have never experienced data theft in a company. I can say I have
seen it multiple times. 

Actually you should assume that everyone is going to steal data. That's your
job. 95% of theft happens from the inside. If you have ever seen it, you
would understand why I said that. Imagine if you worked for a software
company and a developer burned your entire new product to CD and then sold
it.
You know who's fault that is? Yours. You gave him that ability.
By your theory, everyone should have access to everything, since everyone
can be trusted. You are not doing your job. You are just trying to make
things easy on you.

As for letting a contractor have a burner on your network, sorry dude, but
that's just stupid.

You cant always stop people from doing things. I saw a guy try to steal
600MB of corporate data by copying it to floppy, disk by disk. But at the
same time, giving users a burner is an invitation to raid the cupboards.

Burning CD's does take up my time, but its part of my job. I want it that
way.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:12 PM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: completely OT




> That is probably your biggest mistake. Users regardless of
> who they are should never have burners. You have completely 
> thrown ANY security you have right out the window.
> 
> IT should always handle the burning of any media.

This is your opinion, and not something that "should be," as you put it.

The availability of CD burners depends largely on the nature of the business
of your company.  In my industry, we have at least 30 contractors who use
their own personal laptops.  I'm not going to stop them from using a laptop
with a CD burner in it, because in the nature of my business, there are
times when people need to create CDs:

- Our technical writers need to burn documentation CDs EVERY DAY.
- Our Programmers and Project Managers need to burn files that don't fit on
Floppy Drive to CDs so they can hand them over to clients.
- We often supply CAD drawings to clients.

The Compact Disc is the easiest and most flexible media type to use, because
floppy disk drives have been ancient technology for far too long.

When you hire someone, you don't hire them on the priviso that they are
going to steal data, and then make every effort to stop them.  You don't
breathe down their necks and say "We're the Nazi's of computer security, so
leave your HaXX0r Sk1LLz at home!"

What's the difference between your HR Officer burning a CD full of data from
your "R:\Human Resources" folder, in comparison to the same person going
through the filing cabinets and photocopying all of the personnel files?
There is no difference.  S/he's already privvy to this kind of information,
and if we didn't trust him/her with that information, they wouldn't be doing
the job they are doing.


Now mind you -- our HR Officer does NOT have a CD-Burner.  Our Technical
Writers do, I do, and a number of other people do.  But I am not here to say
that taking away data from work is wrong; that's a decision to be made by
Upper Management.



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IT Officer
SAGE Automation Ltd

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"Computers are like air-conditioners; they don't work when you open
Windows."



 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:06 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: completely OT
> 
> 
> about 40 have burners... PR, heads of unit...
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 May, 2002 5:33 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: completely OT
> 
> 
> Your users have burners???
> That is a HUGE security hole.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:21 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: completely OT
> 
> 
> I want to adapt my firewalls and attachment blocking to avoid
> users on the domain downloading these things as our blanc 
> CD's and online times are rising too high, and there are 
> rumours that people are swopping DVD's hence my question...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Aldred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 May, 2002 5:00 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: completely OT
> 
> 
> I don't think you will find anyone who will publicly admit
> that they know how to violate copyright laws.
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:58 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: completely OT
> 
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> apparently there is a way to download films off the net and
> burn them on a CD to be played in a DVD player? Any tips welcome.
> 
> K/
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