I concur. It takes how long to fire off a CD burn? Much less time than it takes me to go have a smoke.
I can afford the time to do that a couple (well, several) times a day, I can afford the time to burn a CD and know it is legit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT 2000 Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: RE: completely OT > I guess you have never experienced data theft in a company. I can say I have > seen it multiple times. > > Actually you should assume that everyone is going to steal data. That's your > job. 95% of theft happens from the inside. If you have ever seen it, you > would understand why I said that. Imagine if you worked for a software > company and a developer burned your entire new product to CD and then sold > it. > You know who's fault that is? Yours. You gave him that ability. > By your theory, everyone should have access to everything, since everyone > can be trusted. You are not doing your job. You are just trying to make > things easy on you. > > As for letting a contractor have a burner on your network, sorry dude, but > that's just stupid. > > You cant always stop people from doing things. I saw a guy try to steal > 600MB of corporate data by copying it to floppy, disk by disk. But at the > same time, giving users a burner is an invitation to raid the cupboards. > > Burning CD's does take up my time, but its part of my job. I want it that > way. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:12 PM > To: NT 2000 Discussions > Subject: RE: completely OT > > > > > > That is probably your biggest mistake. Users regardless of > > who they are should never have burners. You have completely > > thrown ANY security you have right out the window. > > > > IT should always handle the burning of any media. > > This is your opinion, and not something that "should be," as you put it. > > The availability of CD burners depends largely on the nature of the business > of your company. In my industry, we have at least 30 contractors who use > their own personal laptops. I'm not going to stop them from using a laptop > with a CD burner in it, because in the nature of my business, there are > times when people need to create CDs: > > - Our technical writers need to burn documentation CDs EVERY DAY. > - Our Programmers and Project Managers need to burn files that don't fit on > Floppy Drive to CDs so they can hand them over to clients. > - We often supply CAD drawings to clients. > > The Compact Disc is the easiest and most flexible media type to use, because > floppy disk drives have been ancient technology for far too long. > > When you hire someone, you don't hire them on the priviso that they are > going to steal data, and then make every effort to stop them. You don't > breathe down their necks and say "We're the Nazi's of computer security, so > leave your HaXX0r Sk1LLz at home!" > > What's the difference between your HR Officer burning a CD full of data from > your "R:\Human Resources" folder, in comparison to the same person going > through the filing cabinets and photocopying all of the personnel files? > There is no difference. S/he's already privvy to this kind of information, > and if we didn't trust him/her with that information, they wouldn't be doing > the job they are doing. > > > Now mind you -- our HR Officer does NOT have a CD-Burner. Our Technical > Writers do, I do, and a number of other people do. But I am not here to say > that taking away data from work is wrong; that's a decision to be made by > Upper Management. > > > > -- > Adam Smith > IT Officer > SAGE Automation Ltd > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.sageautomation.com > > Phone: (08) 8276 0703 > Fax: (08) 8276 0799 > Mobile: 0414 895 273 > > "Computers are like air-conditioners; they don't work when you open > Windows." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 9:06 AM > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > Subject: RE: completely OT > > > > > > about 40 have burners... PR, heads of unit... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 13 May, 2002 5:33 PM > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > Subject: RE: completely OT > > > > > > Your users have burners??? > > That is a HUGE security hole. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:21 AM > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > Subject: RE: completely OT > > > > > > I want to adapt my firewalls and attachment blocking to avoid > > users on the domain downloading these things as our blanc > > CD's and online times are rising too high, and there are > > rumours that people are swopping DVD's hence my question... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Aldred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 13 May, 2002 5:00 PM > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > Subject: RE: completely OT > > > > > > I don't think you will find anyone who will publicly admit > > that they know how to violate copyright laws. > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:58 AM > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > Subject: RE: completely OT > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > apparently there is a way to download films off the net and > > burn them on a CD to be played in a DVD player? 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