Funny you should ask. I just spent half a day with one of their systems
engineers on site.

The newer Dell's seem to be decent boxes - a good range of options to fit
most needs, without being too big a line to get familiar with. I personally
think they're doing a fairly good job at hitting some of the annoyances I've
had with Compaq boxes over the last few years, especially in the 1U server
areas.

The 1655MC looks interesting, but I've been told that it has a relatively
short shelf life - the current incarnation runs on PIII procs, with the next
generation, due out withing 12 months, with PIV procs, which aren't expected
to be backwards compatible. Therefore, its fairly important to max out the
shell of the 1655MC early on. They are, however, doing a sweet promotion -
buy 3 blades, get the chassis for free, and apparently the blades are less
than comparably equiped 1650's. Also note that, at this point, they have no
ability to connect to external storage except via the network - so using
them as front ends for databases, etc, are pretty much out of the question.

Dell is also seriously pushing the Dell/EMC partnership. Not to the
exclusion of DAS environments, but I'd expect in the next 2-3 years to see
Dell move entirely away from external SCSI cages[1]. From looking at their
CX line (the next generation EMC Claarion line), its getting very cost
effective to move into fibre attached storage, even at relatively small
volumes.

The NAS appliances look interesting, finally, for a couple of reasons.
First, they're really pushing the NAS on SAN concept - buy front ends and
grow your storage on the SAN as necessary. Second, Trend[2] has released
antivirus specifically for Windows powered NAS devices. This was probably
the biggest issue in deployment for a number of shops, mine included. They
also support most of the functions that NetApp and the other big players
support - snapshot backups, etc.

I've said it before - I'll work with any tier 1 vendor - and I've worked
with 3 of the 4 at this point[3]. There are benefits and downsides to each
company, really. I think there's more flexibility in the Compaq line, and I
think with that, there is also more familiarity with their servers. However,
I've also experenced a higher than normal failure rate with Compaq over the
last few years.

Frankly, I like what I see with Dell. We're switching back to them mainly to
take advantage of their biggest strength - they still make the most IT
friendly desktop/laptop line of boxes out there. So, it only makes sense to
leverage the economies of scale that come with puchasing large numbers of
client machines. I personally didn't care which brand of servers we used,
but I don't think you'd go wrong with Dell.


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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA

[1] I think the rest of the industry is a bit farther behind on that, but
its coming anyway, IMO.

[2] I don't know who else is, but I'm sure there are others at this point

[3] Dell, and pre-merger Compaq and HP separately. Haven't touched IBM
directly yet.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:40 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: OT: Dell PowerEdge support | Windows platform
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> 
> Interested in any experiences out there with the Dell PowerEdge line,
> specifically related to support process, parts replacement, 
> and if possible
> any experiences with these really new 1655MC blade servers 
> using Windows
> 2000.
> 
> All comments appreciated.
> 
> Byron Kennedy
> Senior Network Engineer
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