A perfect example of why you should never have static WINS entries in the
database.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthews, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:37 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Name resolution quiz
> 
> 
> In our wins environment we have a modified hub spoke, the central wins
> replicates with one wins server at remote locations and if they have a
> secondary wins it replicates with its primary to keep down with wins
> replication traffic. We use static entries only for our 
> domain controllers,
> but some locations use static entries for their servers, 
> which has caused us
> problems. Example they had static entries, moved wins to 
> another box shut
> off the old server and left the database with entries in it and didn't
> notify anyone. They then changes ip addresses on one of the 
> static entries
> and it never replicated. One morning users couldn't gain access to the
> server. We got rid of the old database and replicated the new entry. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Coughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:25 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Name resolution quiz
> 
> 
> I beg to differ.  WINS entries are LEASED and must be 
> Released and Refreshed
> every few days or else the Lease expires.  This is from
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
> hnet/prodtechn
> ol/windows2000serv/reskit/tcpip/part2/tcpch07.asp
> 
> WINS clients must renew their name registrations before the 
> renewal interval
> expires. The renewal interval determines how long the server 
> stores the name
> registration as an active record in the WINS database. 
> 
> When a WINS client renews its name registration, it sends a 
> name refresh
> request to the WINS server. The name refresh request includes 
> the IP address
> and the NetBIOS name that the client seeks to refresh. The WINS server
> responds to the name refresh request with a name refresh response that
> includes a new renewal interval for the name. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:05 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Name resolution quiz
> 
> 
> I'll call BS on that one.
> 
> Any machine capable of registering itself in WINS (i.e. every 
> Windows based
> machine) should NEVER, EVER, EVER IN A MILLION YEARS have a 
> static WINS
> entry.
> 
> Sounds like your WINS server is configured incorrectly. I've 
> got plenty of
> NT and Win2k machines that have been up over 180 days without 
> falling out of
> WINS. Ever.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Coughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:55 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Name resolution quiz
> > 
> > 
> > You should have a static entry for Servers and other systems
> > which have a
> > static IP and don't get rebooted frequently.  The alternative 
> > is to run
> > "nbtstat -RR" every few days, otherwise the WINS server 
> > releases the entry.
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:50 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Name resolution quiz
> > 
> > 
> > You should not have to add static entries for Windows systems.
> > 
> > How are your WINS servers configured and how many do you have?
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > ASB
> > http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lum, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:40 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: Name resolution quiz
> > 
> > 
> > Time to show more of my ignorance.
> > 
> > PROBLEM:
> > a) DOMAIN1 DC gets event ID 5719 "No NT domain controller 
> is available 
> > for domain DOMAIN2..."
> > 
> > b) Using Server Manager to look at DOMAIN2 tells me I get read only 
> > because it can't find the PDC of DOMAIN2
> > 
> > TROUBLESHOOTING STEPS:
> > Attempt to ping Server1 by name:
> > Unknown Host
> > 
> > Ping server by IP:
> > successful replies
> > 
> > Fine, it can't resolve the name but out of curiosity I try:
> > 
> > NBTSTAT -a Server1 IP and I get:
> > Server1        <00>  UNIQUE      Registered
> > Server1        <20>  UNIQUE      Registered
> > DOMAIN2        <00>  GROUP       Registered
> > DOMAIN2        <1C>  GROUP       Registered
> > DOMAIN2        <1E>  GROUP       Registered
> > Server1        <03>  UNIQUE      Registered
> > ADMINISTRATOR  <03>  UNIQUE      Conflict
> > DOMAIN2        <1B>  UNIQUE      Registered
> > DOMAIN2        <1D>  UNIQUE      Registered
> > __MSBROWSE__.<01>  GROUP       Registered
> > 
> > FIX: DOMAIN1 DC is WINS server, so I added static WINS 
> mapping. Server 
> > manager is now happy and I can ping by name.
> > 
> > Question:
> > NBTSTAT uses NetBIOS to resolve the name, so why can't the 
> machine use 
> > the Server1 name to contact it without a WINS (or probably 
> DNS would 
> > work too) entry even with NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled?
> > 
> > Dave.
> > PS this list makes me better troubleshooter, as to collect
> > all relevant
> > information sometimes I find the solution before finished 
> the e-mail!
> > 
> > 
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