Unfortunatly the ntop for Win 32 that you made it doesn't work, crash to often. My boss is after me if we can have our money back. He doesn't understand the big effort behind the development of ntop for Windows.
I didn't want to get this far but considering the cincunstances we centanly want our money back.
I personaly will continue exploring with ntop in Linux and I hope that this commercial desition doesn't affect me in the future when I'll ask for help or advices in the ntop mailing list.
Thanks anyway.
Luca Deri wrote:
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Hi all,
if you want your money back, please mail to me and you'll have it. The money is used to run the project (for instance I need to buy Gbit cards and switches for the ring developments). ntop is released under GPL that explicitly states the no guarantee disclaimer.
Back to your problem. ntop is based on several libraries that have been ported from Unix to Win32. They more or less work but as you can see this is not always the case. Please provide me an account on your host, install Visual C++ in there, and I can (hopefully) debug the problem (e.g. I can connect using Windows terminal services).
Last question: did you install the latest snapshot (2.2.96b)?
Regards, Luca
On 26 nov 2003, at 09:40, Mark Gibbons wrote:
Hi Josh
There is no denying that each release has improved which is great.
Ntop is also great - no fantastic. Luca and Burton are superb
However "lasting most of the day" is hardly useable. Most people do
not want to think about IF ntop is running. I believe *usually* that
apart from general monitoring people turn to ntop when there is a
network problem and want to see what activity there has been in the
previous hours. For that ntop has to have been up and running.
I am not criticising ntop in any way. Indeed quite the oposite. I
believe that Luca is creating a rod for his own back offering the
windows program in its current state AND asking people to pay for it.
I have no problems in the CONCEPT of paying for it BUT IT THEN MUST
WORK.
I thinks thats now my three cents ;-) (is that more than two
pennies?)
Mark
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From:Josh Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:26 November 2003 02:09
To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:RE: [Ntop] Win32
I bought the product a fair while ago, probably at the start of the
year and although I was having a hell of a lot of troubles initially
I've found each release just gets better and better in terms of
functionality and stability. I'm using 2.2.96 at present as 2.2.96b
crashed a lot more than the previous release.
The current version I'm using lasts most of the day, and it's pretty
easy to get it to restart when (if) it dies. I'm completely happy
that I've paid for the software as I can only see this thing taking
off in a big way, both for the people that compile it themselves and
for those that pay for it.
Personally I have absolutely no experience with programming, with
linux, or anything like that and haivng the option to pay for a
pre-compiled version is one I couldn't live without. I suppose one
thing we can all see that's happened recently is the documentation
side of things getting better (the pdf is a god-send, thanks Luca) but
again this is really a progarm that people spend their own time on to
give to the community.
Josh..
-----Original Message-----
From:Jeffrey Sharpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:Wednesday, 26 November 2003 10:11 AM
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [Ntop] Win32
My question is, has anybody looked at why the program has troubles on
Windows? It could be an excellent product for the windows envirorment
too, I think it just needs to be addressed. If it is going to be
compiled and sold, at least look at the stability issues a little.
(My 2 cents. Again.) I'll shutup now, as I have yet to experience
any windows issues, as I said, we had just purchased it.
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From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf OfMark
Gibbons
Sent:Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:36 PM
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [Ntop] Win32
This is a tricky one.
Perhaps there just should NOT be a version for windows OR perhaps it
should just be a DEMO ONLY version
We purchased NTOP last year, about this time, and it clearly showed us
the fanatastic capabilities of the program. However, forthe past year
we have struggled with it, waiting eagerly for each upgrade hoping for
resolutions but as other people have found it is next to useless.
We have just setup a Redhat 8.0 box to act as a firewall between a
wireless network and our main network. We installed the ntop sources
from CVS , compiled, and we now have a WORKING, STABLE tool.
So..
Point A: If we had not been able to try ntop (on windows, as we had
no nix servers) we would not have known how good it was.
Point B: Because ntop is so unusable on windows people think
(myself included) that it would be the same on *nix and this gives a
bad impression.
So perhaps win32 ntop should only ever be a DEMO of the *real* product
in the *nix environment.
I personally believe that the win32 version (or the support therof)
should NOT be charged for becuase it is UNFIT and UNSUPPORTABLE.
Paying for it gets people browned off as they do not appreciate the
hours that go into it - all they see is that they have paid for
something THAT DOES NOT WORK.
Just my two pennies.
Mark Gibbons
OEM Computer Systems, UK
-----Original Message-----
From:Pagel, Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:25 November 2003 09:34
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:AW: [Ntop] Win32
Alan,
what you see is what (I guess) most of the Win32 users experience...
NTOP seams to be very unstable in the Win32 version. Do you use RRD? I
get a slightly better behaviour if I switch off the RRD plugin, but
that might be a special case.
The support for the Win32 version is very very limited, there were
lots of complains about that in the backtraffic. As a paying
contributor I feel very disappointed about that. Luca (the brain
behind ntop) was very busy getting ntop stable with Win32, but this is
months ago, I gave him access to my box to use it as an additional
test environment, but he doesn't use it anymore.
Sometimes we see a new version, sometimes the situation gets better,
sometimes worse. So we all hope that Luca (or someone else) will find
some time to get it fixed...
Thomas
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Lee
Gesendet:Sonntag, 23. November 2003 14:00
An:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff:[Ntop] Win32
Hello
We have installed NTOP for Windows onto a Windows 2000 server box,
with two network cards. Im using the registered version, which I had
paid for so there shouldn't be a 1000 packet limit as I understand.
NTOP starts working fine to begin with, but after say around 10ish
minutes - it stops collecting data and resets all current counters, as
in it reports 'No Data to Display' in the IP Traffic area and other
area's show no traffic at all. No IP addresses listed or anything,
when it did only just a few minutes before showing ip addresses,
bandwidth usage etc. Im using the latest version, which is 2.2.96
What more should I say about the situation?
Thank you
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http://luca.ntop.org
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