Hello,
There in the data dump, there are 2 bytes receive and bytes sent reading.
What is for what?
Regards
"Burton M. Strauss III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
First off, I don't agree IN ANY WAY WITH YOUR anti-Microsoft thoughts,
behaviors or actions. Let's make that perfectly clear. In fact, I think
you're dead wrong. ntop exists solely because Luca can justify it's
development as part of his job and research. If he had to put food on the
table to feed his wife and son, there would be almost zero growth in the
tool.
Secondly, I do not derive ANY revenue from the Win32 convenience fee -
that's solely to the (minimal) benefit of Luca.
Thirdly, I have posted at least two long explanations about why the Windows
32 version is more fragile - it has NOTHING to do with a Microsoft
conspiracy, immature tools, etc. It's purely about the architecture. The
same box, simply has more stuff running AND provides more functionality
under Windows than under *nux. That's because under Windows you have both a
SERVER and a DESKTOP running, while a *nix server box is purely SERVER. If
you want an apples and apples compare, run X Windows and all the other crud
on the *nix box - then compare them. Another issue in the Win32 world is
that you are running a compatibility layer to modify the Windows NDIS model
to the *nix model when you're using winpcap. Interestingly, if you read
Luca's paper, that combination does a better job at high speeds than Linux
at capturing packets.
-----Burton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arnt
> Karlsen
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 1:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Ntop] Win32
>
>
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:44:16 -0500,
> Hernando Tovar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Luca Deri wrote:
> > &! gt; Hi all,
> > >
> > > if you want your money back, please mail to me and you'll have it.
> > > The money is used to run the project (for instance I need to buy
> > > Gbit cards and switches for the ring developments). ntop is released
> > > under GPL that explicitly states the no guarantee disclaimer.
> > >
> > > Back to your problem. ntop is based on several libraries that have
> > > been ported from Unix to Win32. They more or less work but as you
> > > can see this is not always the case. Please provide me an account on
> > > your host, install Visual C++ in there, and I can (hopefully) debug
> > > the problem(e.g. I can connect using Windows terminal services).
>
> ..the problem is, Microsoft is actually sabotaging coders who uses the
> GPL. Because the GPL makes use of copyright law to protect coders
> from being screwed! by Microsoft.
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL
>
> ..they (Microsoft) say they spend 5 Million US$ to combat cybercrime
> such as making and spreading viruses, while they this far has pumped
> in, I estimate 75 Million US$, into SCO's lawsuit on IBM, details are
> provided in the rather excellent analysis and investigation work done
> in http://groklaw.net/ ;-)
>
> ..purpose: Use SCO's pump-n-dump stock scheme to spread FUD to
> keep US, Colombian etc etc industry etc from getting the securest 'n
> cheapest 'n best software that would the end user back in control
> of what your company needs to buy, rather than hop-n-buy every
> time Microsoft says so.
>
> ..yes, Microsoft _knows_ they buy into a illegal pump-n-dump stock
> scheme that will cause loss of their _entire_ "investment".
>
> ..they (Microsoft) may even be able to recover, legally, under
>! US law, their "loss", as a tax-deductible business expense.
>
> > Luca,
> >
> > Unfortunatly the ntop for Win 32 that you made it doesn't work, crash
> > to often. My boss is after me if we can have our money back. He
> > doesn't understand the big effort behind the development of ntop for
> > Windows.
>
> ..your boss can be understood 2 ways: "Luca and Burton are bandits
> who lure money off naive idiots" like yourselves, and "Surely Microsoft
> cannot have a problem cooperating with Luca and Burton under
> US copyright law?". ;-)
>
> ..in the latter case, google for "Microsoft" "cooperation" and "lawsuit"
> etc, to get your boss up to date. ;-)
>
> ..in the first case; if you need someone to chew out your boss,
> just say the word. ;-)
>
>
> > I didn't want to get this far but considering the cincunstances we
> > centanly want! our money back.
> > I personaly will continue exploring with ntop in Linux and I hope that
> > this commercial desition doesn't affect me in the future when I'll ask
> > for help or advices in the ntop mailing list.
> >
> > Thanks anyway.
> >
>
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