Be mindful of the fact that while some claim AD support they don't necessarily 
execute it well. Buffalo Terrastations come to mind..... YMMV

 John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell     (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:57 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

And that it supports AD for permissions.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:56 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

So it seems like more folks ar3 leaning to the NAS, any particular features I 
should be looking for?

Aside from ensuring supports X number of connections?
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:49:06 -0400
print yes, file is the other question, if I go to NAS do I "need" windows file 
server? wouldn't the NAS take care of that?
The NAS box should take care of shares, etc. internally. But make sure it has 
the capacity to support the number of planned connections.

John M.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:19 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server

print yes, file is the other question, if I go to NAS do I "need" windows file 
server? wouldn't the NAS take care of that?

The Exchange is a guest on the 2012 hyper-v host, and there is nothing else on 
it, but in my research i see both negative and positive feedback regarding 
loading another guest-

In theory being that 2012 allows/gives 2 guest 2012's with a single license, I 
could easily spin up another guest and make it a DC , DHCP, DNS , etc... server.












Jean-Paul Natola

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:07:56 -0400
Are you migrating the file/print to another machine?  I am hoping you don't 
have anything on the Exchange server but Exchange.

Jon

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:02:47 -0400
Already planned,  VM 2003dc  will become 2012 DC
and current "all in one" 2003 dc will become 2012 DC (already have the Cals)

that will give me 2 dedicated 2012 DC's

Looking to stay under 5k, and I have no problems with Dell outlet r510 or r710 -

just trying to decide NAS or Server, and of course I dont need to populate all 
the drive bays right away, heck there used to a
 7200k sata1 mirror-












Jean-Paul Natola

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:51:19 -0400
I really hate to do this but you will first want to start with a budget and 
then try to fit what fits into that budget.  As an aside you might want to look 
at upgrading to at least 2008 R2 or better 2012, have at least 2 DC's, and get 
all the file/print off the DC when you go this route.

Jon

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:43:30 -0400
Company background,

30 yrs old, started with 2 guys, went to to computers in the late 90's had 
about 20 users, 1 W2k server and a 120 gb SNAP-

Fast forward , 2008,  30 users, sql 2005 DB  (consultant at the time ) installs 
a new 1U 2003 80gb raid server  for sql DB , and another 1U server with a 
mirrored 750gb drive , serving as  DC/File/Print/DNS Server.

Fast Forward 2013 - single site , single domain

1. ESXi hosting a VM 2008 Citrix TS, and a VM 2003 DC (no storage really 
available)
1. Windows 2012 Hyper-V host,  SAS mirror for host OS, raid 10 2TB for guest 
OS', currently one guest, 2012 with  Exchange 2013.

Now there are 60 users, (still using original 2003 for File Print and DNS) and 
storage demands, as we all know are increasing exponentially, so I get the  "we 
need more storage " so this begs the question, new server 2u (R710 maybe) , or 
a NAS 8 or 12 bays maybe-

As an aside, majority of the users use basic office files,  but there are about 
a dozen that deal with CAD Audio and Video
I want this solution to be good for 3-5 years














Jean-Paul Natola


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