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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Unless it’s a Buffalo Terrastation…. L (or at least the version I have
> which is ~4 yrs old).****
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> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Guyer, Don
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:37 AM
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> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server****
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> CIFS is the share from the storage (NAS/SAN) perspective. Once the server
> is connected to the CIFS share, you then apply NTFS perms to it, just like
> you would any folder/share.****
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> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard McClary
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:30 AM
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> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server****
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> They may call it “CIFS” rather than “NTSF”****
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> *From:* [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Link
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:18 AM
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> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server****
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> Do they have NTFS permissions on those things, yet?  That's probably a
> major feature to be looking for...****
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> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote:****
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> Be mindful of the fact that while some claim AD support they don’t
> necessarily execute it well. Buffalo Terrastations come to mind….. YMMV***
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:57 AM****
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> *To:* '[email protected]'
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server****
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> And that it supports AD for permissions.****
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> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:56 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server****
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> So it seems like more folks ar3 leaning to the NAS, any particular
> features I should be looking for?
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> Aside from ensuring supports X number of connections?****
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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:49:06 -0400****
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> print yes, file is the other question, if I go to NAS do I "need" windows
> file server? wouldn't the NAS take care of that?****
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> The NAS box should take care of shares, etc. internally. But make sure it
> has the capacity to support the number of planned connections.****
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> John M.****
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> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:19 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server****
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> print yes, file is the other question, if I go to NAS do I "need" windows
> file server? wouldn't the NAS take care of that?
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> The Exchange is a guest on the 2012 hyper-v host, and there is nothing
> else on it, but in my research i see both negative and positive feedback
> regarding loading another guest-
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> In theory being that 2012 allows/gives 2 guest 2012's with a single
> license, I could easily spin up another guest and make it a DC , DHCP, DNS
> , etc... server.
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> Jean-Paul Natola
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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:07:56 -0400****
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> Are you migrating the file/print to another machine?  I am hoping you
> don't have anything on the Exchange server but Exchange.
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> Jon
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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:02:47 -0400****
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> Already planned,  VM 2003dc  will become 2012 DC
> and current "all in one" 2003 dc will become 2012 DC (already have the
> Cals)
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> that will give me 2 dedicated 2012 DC's
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> Looking to stay under 5k, and I have no problems with Dell outlet r510 or
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> just trying to decide NAS or Server, and of course I dont need to populate
> all the drive bays right away, heck there used to a
>  7200k sata1 mirror-
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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:51:19 -0400****
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> I really hate to do this but you will first want to start with a budget
> and then try to fit what fits into that budget.  As an aside you might want
> to look at upgrading to at least 2008 R2 or better 2012, have at least 2
> DC's, and get all the file/print off the DC when you go this route.
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> Jon
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> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:43:30 -0400****
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> Company background,
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> 30 yrs old, started with 2 guys, went to to computers in the late 90's had
> about 20 users, 1 W2k server and a 120 gb SNAP-
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> Fast forward , 2008,  30 users, sql 2005 DB  (consultant at the time )
> installs a new 1U 2003 80gb raid server  for sql DB , and another 1U server
> with a mirrored 750gb drive , serving as  DC/File/Print/DNS Server.
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> Fast Forward 2013 - single site , single domain
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> 1. ESXi hosting a VM 2008 Citrix TS, and a VM 2003 DC (no storage really
> available)
> 1. Windows 2012 Hyper-V host,  SAS mirror for host OS, raid 10 2TB for
> guest OS', currently one guest, 2012 with  Exchange 2013.
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> Now there are 60 users, (still using original 2003 for File Print and DNS)
> and storage demands, as we all know are increasing exponentially, so I get
> the  "we need more storage " so this begs the question, new server 2u (R710
> maybe) , or a NAS 8 or 12 bays maybe-
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> As an aside, majority of the users use basic office files,  but there are
> about a dozen that deal with CAD Audio and Video
> I want this solution to be good for 3-5 years
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