> Any remedies for this kind of stupidity that you can recommend?

Lync?

Sorry ... couldn't resist.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
installation

Any remedies for this kind of stupidity that you can recommend?

Other than hunting down and hurting the devs?

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Webster <[email protected]> wrote:
> I see mostly the same stupid requirements for most healthcare and finance 
> related software.  IOW, their devs are either too stupid or too lazy to build 
> proper Windows apps.  But that is just my rant from working so long in the 
> TS/RDS/XenApp world.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Webster
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:01 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
>> installation
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We are using ShoreTel for our phone solution. Works well.
>>
>> I have just recently upgraded from 10.2 to 11.2 to 12.3, after I 
>> moved it to a new VLAN - that was a bit of a late night...
>>
>> However, it's running on an ancient SuperMicro server, on Server 2003 R2.
>>
>> It's time to move it to a new Dell machine, running 2008 R2, and to 
>> get to the current version of 13.2.
>>
>> I've looked at the prerequisites for installing 12.3, and am appalled 
>> at what they suggest, and was hoping for a bit of feedback from 
>> anyone here regarding this.
>>
>> Here's what they want me to do:
>>
>> o- Turn off the firewall - disable all of the profiles (Domain, 
>> Public and Private), then turn off and disable the service.
>> o- Turn off the Base Filtering Engine (disable the service)
>> o- Set DEP for essential Windows programs and services only
>> o- Turn off UAC
>> o- Do not apply patches released past a certain date, stating
>>           "When releasing a new build, ShoreTel publishes build notes 
>> listing the Microsoft
>>           patches that are certified against the build.  ShoreTel 
>> also highlights software
>>           changes required by the Microsoft patches. Note that no 
>> additional Microsoft
>>           updates should be applied to your ShoreWare server between 
>> ShoreTel builds. If
>>           you install Microsoft updates between ShoreTel builds, they 
>> may have an adverse
>>           effect on your telephone system.
>>           Disable Microsoft updates until you review the detailed 
>> certification provided with
>>           each release."
>>
>>
>> If you are running ShoreTel, have you run into this, and how do you 
>> protect your ShoreTel environment, other than firewalling the subnet that 
>> it's on?
>>
>> To me, this seems like egregiously broken software, requiring me to 
>> reduce the security of the server to near zero.
>>
>> Thoughts appreciated.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>



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