I do believe it's Core CAL.

I shall have to verify that, though I'm betting we're not big enough
for Enterprise CALs.

Pity...

Kurt

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Ryan Finnesey <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am a fan of Lync
>
> I think that Enterprise Voice is not part of the Core CAL it may be part of 
> the Enterprise CAL.  Witch CAL are you using with your EA?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:18 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
> installation
>
> That is an intriguing thought.
>
> Given that we have an EA, it might make a very case to argue for dropping 
> ShoreTel.
>
> I think I'll do a little research on this topic.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> I run into this all the time for various Windows-based telephony and UM 
>> systems. Cisco used to be this way also. Don't know if they still are. Two 
>> of the other vendors I work with are.
>>
>> Lync has Enterprise Voice and it can be a complete replacement for a PBX, 
>> given an appropriate gateway to the PSTN.
>>
>> Asterisk also has patching issues, don't let anyone fool you there... as far 
>> as I have seen, Microsoft does this better than anyone else.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:01 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel
>> installation
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We are using ShoreTel for our phone solution. Works well.
>>
>> I have just recently upgraded from 10.2 to 11.2 to 12.3, after I moved it to 
>> a new VLAN - that was a bit of a late night...
>>
>> However, it's running on an ancient SuperMicro server, on Server 2003 R2.
>>
>> It's time to move it to a new Dell machine, running 2008 R2, and to get to 
>> the current version of 13.2.
>>
>> I've looked at the prerequisites for installing 12.3, and am appalled at 
>> what they suggest, and was hoping for a bit of feedback from anyone here 
>> regarding this.
>>
>> Here's what they want me to do:
>>
>> o- Turn off the firewall - disable all of the profiles (Domain, Public and 
>> Private), then turn off and disable the service.
>> o- Turn off the Base Filtering Engine (disable the service)
>> o- Set DEP for essential Windows programs and services only
>> o- Turn off UAC
>> o- Do not apply patches released past a certain date, stating
>>           "When releasing a new build, ShoreTel publishes build notes 
>> listing the Microsoft
>>           patches that are certified against the build.  ShoreTel also 
>> highlights software
>>           changes required by the Microsoft patches. Note that no additional 
>> Microsoft
>>           updates should be applied to your ShoreWare server between 
>> ShoreTel builds. If
>>           you install Microsoft updates between ShoreTel builds, they may 
>> have an adverse
>>           effect on your telephone system.
>>           Disable Microsoft updates until you review the detailed 
>> certification provided with
>>           each release."
>>
>>
>> If you are running ShoreTel, have you run into this, and how do you protect 
>> your ShoreTel environment, other than firewalling the subnet that it's on?
>>
>> To me, this seems like egregiously broken software, requiring me to reduce 
>> the security of the server to near zero.
>>
>> Thoughts appreciated.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>
>


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