Now that's an interesting thought...

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Kramer, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
> Or Asterisk.
>
> (sent from a mobile device)
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> On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:49 PM, "Brian Desmond" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Any remedies for this kind of stupidity that you can recommend?
>>
>> Lync?
>>
>> Sorry ... couldn't resist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian Desmond
>> [email protected]
>>
>> w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:15 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
>> installation
>>
>> Any remedies for this kind of stupidity that you can recommend?
>>
>> Other than hunting down and hurting the devs?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Webster <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I see mostly the same stupid requirements for most healthcare and finance 
>>> related software.  IOW, their devs are either too stupid or too lazy to 
>>> build proper Windows apps.  But that is just my rant from working so long 
>>> in the TS/RDS/XenApp world.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Webster
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:01 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel
>>>> installation
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> We are using ShoreTel for our phone solution. Works well.
>>>>
>>>> I have just recently upgraded from 10.2 to 11.2 to 12.3, after I
>>>> moved it to a new VLAN - that was a bit of a late night...
>>>>
>>>> However, it's running on an ancient SuperMicro server, on Server 2003 R2.
>>>>
>>>> It's time to move it to a new Dell machine, running 2008 R2, and to
>>>> get to the current version of 13.2.
>>>>
>>>> I've looked at the prerequisites for installing 12.3, and am appalled
>>>> at what they suggest, and was hoping for a bit of feedback from
>>>> anyone here regarding this.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what they want me to do:
>>>>
>>>> o- Turn off the firewall - disable all of the profiles (Domain,
>>>> Public and Private), then turn off and disable the service.
>>>> o- Turn off the Base Filtering Engine (disable the service)
>>>> o- Set DEP for essential Windows programs and services only
>>>> o- Turn off UAC
>>>> o- Do not apply patches released past a certain date, stating
>>>>          "When releasing a new build, ShoreTel publishes build notes
>>>> listing the Microsoft
>>>>          patches that are certified against the build.  ShoreTel
>>>> also highlights software
>>>>          changes required by the Microsoft patches. Note that no
>>>> additional Microsoft
>>>>          updates should be applied to your ShoreWare server between
>>>> ShoreTel builds. If
>>>>          you install Microsoft updates between ShoreTel builds, they
>>>> may have an adverse
>>>>          effect on your telephone system.
>>>>          Disable Microsoft updates until you review the detailed
>>>> certification provided with
>>>>          each release."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you are running ShoreTel, have you run into this, and how do you
>>>> protect your ShoreTel environment, other than firewalling the subnet that 
>>>> it's on?
>>>>
>>>> To me, this seems like egregiously broken software, requiring me to
>>>> reduce the security of the server to near zero.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>
>>
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