Don't apologize - we have Lync 2010 in house, and are using it for IM
and videoconferencing between our offices.

But I don't recall it being a full-blown substitute for a phone system
like ShoreTel, MiTel, etc. Oh, how I wish it were...

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Any remedies for this kind of stupidity that you can recommend?
>
> Lync?
>
> Sorry ... couldn't resist.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [email protected]
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:15 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
> installation
>
> Any remedies for this kind of stupidity that you can recommend?
>
> Other than hunting down and hurting the devs?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Webster <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I see mostly the same stupid requirements for most healthcare and finance 
>> related software.  IOW, their devs are either too stupid or too lazy to 
>> build proper Windows apps.  But that is just my rant from working so long in 
>> the TS/RDS/XenApp world.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:01 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel
>>> installation
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We are using ShoreTel for our phone solution. Works well.
>>>
>>> I have just recently upgraded from 10.2 to 11.2 to 12.3, after I
>>> moved it to a new VLAN - that was a bit of a late night...
>>>
>>> However, it's running on an ancient SuperMicro server, on Server 2003 R2.
>>>
>>> It's time to move it to a new Dell machine, running 2008 R2, and to
>>> get to the current version of 13.2.
>>>
>>> I've looked at the prerequisites for installing 12.3, and am appalled
>>> at what they suggest, and was hoping for a bit of feedback from
>>> anyone here regarding this.
>>>
>>> Here's what they want me to do:
>>>
>>> o- Turn off the firewall - disable all of the profiles (Domain,
>>> Public and Private), then turn off and disable the service.
>>> o- Turn off the Base Filtering Engine (disable the service)
>>> o- Set DEP for essential Windows programs and services only
>>> o- Turn off UAC
>>> o- Do not apply patches released past a certain date, stating
>>>           "When releasing a new build, ShoreTel publishes build notes
>>> listing the Microsoft
>>>           patches that are certified against the build.  ShoreTel
>>> also highlights software
>>>           changes required by the Microsoft patches. Note that no
>>> additional Microsoft
>>>           updates should be applied to your ShoreWare server between
>>> ShoreTel builds. If
>>>           you install Microsoft updates between ShoreTel builds, they
>>> may have an adverse
>>>           effect on your telephone system.
>>>           Disable Microsoft updates until you review the detailed
>>> certification provided with
>>>           each release."
>>>
>>>
>>> If you are running ShoreTel, have you run into this, and how do you
>>> protect your ShoreTel environment, other than firewalling the subnet that 
>>> it's on?
>>>
>>> To me, this seems like egregiously broken software, requiring me to
>>> reduce the security of the server to near zero.
>>>
>>> Thoughts appreciated.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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