You are right about that for sure.  I had to revert the CRM org to roughly
a month ago.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:

> I believe in this case he may be saying this cloned copy predated the
> current one but I could be wrong.
>
> Jon
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] In defense of image-based VM backups
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:58:19 +0000
>
> Couldn't you have just cloned the existing VM to make your sandbox; no VM
> backup required?
>
>  DAMIEN SOLODOW
>  Systems Engineer
>  317.447.6033 (office)
>  317.447.6014 (fax)
>  HARRISON COLLEGE
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]]
> on behalf of Richard Stovall [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] In defense of image-based VM backups
>
>   There was a discussion here a few weeks ago that centered on
> image-based backups for entire VMs vs data-based backups of applications
> only.  My recollection is that most of us smaller guys prefer (or at least
> lean toward) the image-based variety, and the bigger, more mature orgs
> prefer data backups.
>
>  I'm going to offer an example of the utility of image-based backups for
> small shops.
>
>  My IT department consists of one other admin and me.  We support a
> fairly complex IT environment for a company of our diminutive size.  We
> recently went whole hog into MSCRM (on-premises), and our developers (we
> have more of them than IT staff) are working hard to customize it to suit
> the company's needs.
>
>  Today I had to roll back a CRM org database to an earlier point in time
> for the devs, and at first blush it appeared to be a successful endeavor.
>  Some funky issues arose, however, so I was faced with a difficult problem
> and no clear direction on how to solve it.  (MSCRM is an enormous beast,
> btw.)
>
>  Long story short, having the ability to (almost) immediately spin up a
> brand new, sandboxed copy of the CRM server allowed me to experiment and
> figure out how to resolve the problem without touching the one the devs
> actually use.  This helped me document the proper fix and apply it in their
> environment in (literally) a few minutes.  I could not have done this
> without the benefits of A) virtualization and B) the ability to create an
> exact clone of the affected machine.
>
>  There are lots of benefits to virtualization, and private clouds, and
> all of the rest of the buzzwords currently on the IT bingo cards.  But, to
> me, the greatest of these accrue to rank and file admins when confronted
> with the kind of situation I faced today.
>
>  It's really cool stuff that could not have been accomplished quickly
> without virtualization *and* image-based backups.
>
>  PS  Full disclosure.  I also do native SQL backups of the CRM databases
> within the VMs, and the restoration of one of these in SQL Management
> Studio was an integral part of the final solution.  I guess this is a
> blended/hybrid solution, but it wouldn't have been easy without being able
> to instantly create a sandbox to test in, and that's an example of the
> power of image-based backups for the small IT shop.
>
>
>

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