Hot-backups were possible for Hyper-V under 2008, I only did them by whole 
hardware backup and never tried to pull just the hot VMs.  I would hope that 
has been improved.
 
Jon
 
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:05:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] In defense of image-based VM backups
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Perhaps.  This is in Hyper-V 2012.  I am still on the fat part of that learning 
curve, so, perhaps.  Is there a way to do a hot-clone?
The restore to sandbox is a clone, it's just a new vm made from a backup of the 
source.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Damien Solodow <[email protected]> 
wrote:







Couldn't you have just cloned the existing VM to make your sandbox; no VM 
backup required?





DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)


317.447.6014 (fax)


HARRISON COLLEGE




From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf 
of Richard Stovall [[email protected]]


Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:53 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: [NTSysADM] In defense of image-based VM backups






There was a discussion here a few weeks ago that centered on image-based 
backups for entire VMs vs data-based backups of applications only.  My 
recollection is that most of us smaller guys prefer (or at least lean toward) 
the image-based variety,
 and the bigger, more mature orgs prefer data backups.



I'm going to offer an example of the utility of image-based backups for small 
shops.



My IT department consists of one other admin and me.  We support a fairly 
complex IT environment for a company of our diminutive size.  We recently went 
whole hog into MSCRM (on-premises), and our developers (we have more of them 
than IT staff) are working
 hard to customize it to suit the company's needs.



Today I had to roll back a CRM org database to an earlier point in time for the 
devs, and at first blush it appeared to be a successful endeavor.  Some funky 
issues arose, however, so I was faced with a difficult problem and no clear 
direction on how to
 solve it.  (MSCRM is an enormous beast, btw.)



Long story short, having the ability to (almost) immediately spin up a brand 
new, sandboxed copy of the CRM server allowed me to experiment and figure out 
how to resolve the problem without touching the one the devs actually use.  
This helped me document
 the proper fix and apply it in their environment in (literally) a few minutes. 
 I could not have done this without the benefits of A) virtualization and B) 
the ability to create an exact clone of the affected machine.




There are lots of benefits to virtualization, and private clouds, and all of 
the rest of the buzzwords currently on the IT bingo cards.  But, to me, the 
greatest of these accrue to rank and file admins when confronted with the kind 
of situation I faced
 today.



It's really cool stuff that could not have been accomplished quickly without 
virtualization
and image-based backups.



PS  Full disclosure.  I also do native SQL backups of the CRM databases within 
the VMs, and the restoration of one of these in SQL Management Studio was an 
integral part of the final solution.  I guess this is a blended/hybrid 
solution, but it wouldn't
 have been easy without being able to instantly create a sandbox to test in, 
and that's an example of the power of image-based backups for the small IT shop.














                                          

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