Yes downgrade breaks the free RD CAL thing. I recall pointing that out on the sbs list and not surprisingly, none of us wanted it to be true.
James. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2014 7:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access Consider VL spread over a three year contract. It helps with the sticker shock. Except when you use downgrade rights to install Essentials R2 and thus the downgraded from server licensing rules apply. So because 2012 R2 would need RDS cals, then Essentials downgrade instance would too. (just when you think you know all of the licensing nuances...) On 1/13/2014 1:35 PM, James Hill wrote: > If the server is SBS or essentials then no RD CAL is required when accessing > via RWA. > > James. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank Arnold > Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 7:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re[2]: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server > Access > > I think my only potential concern with the RDG solution for SMBs is the need > for RDP licenses. For a small non-profit agency like mine, cost is a major > concern, especially since being Healthcare we are not eligible for any > discounts form MS or Tech Soup. > > > Regards, > Hank Arnold > > > > Twitter: @Hank_PCDoc > > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hank.arnold.96 > > My Blog: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/personal-pc-assistant/ > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "James Hill" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: 1/12/2014 7:44:39 PM > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access > >> I think we are all well versed with the size of your everything >> thanks Ken. And as you so regularly like to remind us I'm confident >> we won't forget. >> >> That doesn't change the fact that Robert asked for opinions from >> those in the SMB space. A highly regarded MVP has provided her >> opinion and it was RDG. You queried that and made a couple of >> statements. As I am also predominantly working in the SMB space I >> chose to respond whilst supporting Susan's proposed RDG solution. >> >> James. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >> Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 10:15 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >> I work in a "large organisation" - we spend well over a billion >> dollars a year on IT&T. We have both huge Citrix farms, and we have >> VPNs as well. I'm quite familiar with the pros/cons of the options. >> >> No one is saying that the RD solution doesn't have benefits. But >> there is a CAPEX and an ongoing OPEX cost to building and supporting >> a RD gateway solution, and it will probably be significantly more >> than a VPN, when the sole purpose is to access an existing file share. >> >> -- >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/kschaefer >> Typed on a Lenovo Helix - apologies for brevity >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Hill >> Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 10:54 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >> VPN greatly amplifies the risk. It creates a direct link between the >> client and the server for all sorts of traffic. With RD Gateway it's >> only RDP traffic over https. >> >> Even for large firms, a thin solution often makes a lot more sense. >> The data is kept on the server so there are all the benefits of >> centralilsed data. Performance is great as there is no perceivable >> difference between opening a 2MB file vs a 20MB file. No special >> client is needed for Windows devices, they can even go to a RDWEB >> page on ANY windows device and login. Whether that is a home >> computer, hotel kiosk etc. That means virtually zero effort required >> by helpdesk/desktop support as they don't have to install and >> configure vpn clients, manage OS and application patches or security >> software. >> >> The user experience is greatly improved as the user is accessing the >> same desktop each time. All their shortcuts and settings are the same. >> They don't have to copy files from device to device. The list of >> benefits far outweighs a VPN solution. >> >> As Robert has a 400Mbps internet link I don't think the small cost of >> 6 RD licenses is going to break the bank. >> >> James. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >> Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 2:33 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >> VPN means the data /may/ be copied to the mobile device - but if I >> open a file from a file server, make my edits, and then save the >> file, it'd be saved back to the file server, and not reside on my device. >> >> Given that these people are in the office normally, they can simply >> copy the files onto their device when they're in the office. Having a >> VPN doesn't really amplify the risk. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley >> Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 3:30 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >> VPN means the data will be on the laptops and on ipads. >> >> Remote desktop services means that the files stay in the network >> where you can protect them better. >> On 1/11/2014 10:17 AM, Chyka, Robert wrote: >>> That is where my mind is at. Still I see simple VPN into the >>> Watchguard then direct access to the server shares. I just haven't >>> been in the loop with smaller office technologies so I wanted to see >>> if I was missing anything that is newer, quicker, better without >>> compromising security. >>> >>> -Bob C. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >>> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:05 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server >>> Access >>> >>> What's wrong with a simple VPN? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley >>> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2014 5:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server >>> Access >>> >>> A remote desktop server that they can hit via rdgateway. >>> Especially those ipads. >>> That would also entail a VL version of Office to be installed on >>> that RDS server. >>> >>> Small businesses don't buy the VL licenses in order to support >>> direct access. >>> >>> On 1/10/2014 8:42 PM, Chyka, Robert wrote: >>>> We have a small remote office (6 users) with a Windows 2008R2 DC >>>> and >>>> a Windows 2012 DC/File server. The only activity this office >>>> performs >>>> on the network is web research and a lot of legal case document >>>> creation and editing - mostly in Word. >>>> >>>> At our main office we use VON to access our file server and home >>>> directories remotely (Cisco ASA 5520s for VPN) and have 400 megs of >>>> bandwidth. At our small remote site we have the following gear: >>>> >>>> -Time Warner Business Class 25/10 >>>> >>>> -WatchGuard XTM 25 Firewall (inherited, not spec'd) >>>> >>>> For remote access to our 2012 file server using either Windows >>>> laptops or Ipads what do you recommend for best performance and >>>> connectivity? >>>> >>>> I was looking at Windows 2012 Anywhere Access but wanted to get >>>> expert opinions in the small business sector. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Got your CryptoLocker prevention in place? http://www.thirdtier.net/2013/10/cryptolocker-prevention-kit-updates/
