If the server is SBS or essentials then no RD CAL is required when accessing via RWA.
James. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank Arnold Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 7:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re[2]: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access I think my only potential concern with the RDG solution for SMBs is the need for RDP licenses. For a small non-profit agency like mine, cost is a major concern, especially since being Healthcare we are not eligible for any discounts form MS or Tech Soup. Regards, Hank Arnold Twitter: @Hank_PCDoc Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hank.arnold.96 My Blog: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/personal-pc-assistant/ ------ Original Message ------ From: "James Hill" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: 1/12/2014 7:44:39 PM Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >I think we are all well versed with the size of your everything thanks >Ken. And as you so regularly like to remind us I'm confident we won't >forget. > >That doesn't change the fact that Robert asked for opinions from those >in the SMB space. A highly regarded MVP has provided her opinion and it >was RDG. You queried that and made a couple of statements. As I am also >predominantly working in the SMB space I chose to respond whilst >supporting Susan's proposed RDG solution. > >James. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 10:15 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access > >I work in a "large organisation" - we spend well over a billion dollars >a year on IT&T. We have both huge Citrix farms, and we have VPNs as >well. I'm quite familiar with the pros/cons of the options. > >No one is saying that the RD solution doesn't have benefits. But there >is a CAPEX and an ongoing OPEX cost to building and supporting a RD >gateway solution, and it will probably be significantly more than a >VPN, when the sole purpose is to access an existing file share. > >-- >http://au.linkedin.com/in/kschaefer >Typed on a Lenovo Helix - apologies for brevity > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Hill >Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 10:54 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access > >VPN greatly amplifies the risk. It creates a direct link between the >client and the server for all sorts of traffic. With RD Gateway it's >only RDP traffic over https. > >Even for large firms, a thin solution often makes a lot more sense. The >data is kept on the server so there are all the benefits of >centralilsed data. Performance is great as there is no perceivable >difference between opening a 2MB file vs a 20MB file. No special client >is needed for Windows devices, they can even go to a RDWEB page on ANY >windows device and login. Whether that is a home computer, hotel kiosk >etc. That means virtually zero effort required by helpdesk/desktop >support as they don't have to install and configure vpn clients, manage >OS and application patches or security software. > >The user experience is greatly improved as the user is accessing the >same desktop each time. All their shortcuts and settings are the same. >They don't have to copy files from device to device. The list of >benefits far outweighs a VPN solution. > >As Robert has a 400Mbps internet link I don't think the small cost of 6 >RD licenses is going to break the bank. > >James. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 2:33 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access > >VPN means the data /may/ be copied to the mobile device - but if I open >a file from a file server, make my edits, and then save the file, it'd >be saved back to the file server, and not reside on my device. > >Given that these people are in the office normally, they can simply >copy the files onto their device when they're in the office. Having a >VPN doesn't really amplify the risk. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley >Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 3:30 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access > >VPN means the data will be on the laptops and on ipads. > >Remote desktop services means that the files stay in the network where >you can protect them better. >On 1/11/2014 10:17 AM, Chyka, Robert wrote: >> That is where my mind is at. Still I see simple VPN into the >>Watchguard then direct access to the server shares. I just haven't >>been in the loop with smaller office technologies so I wanted to see >>if I was missing anything that is newer, quicker, better without >>compromising security. >> >> -Bob C. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:05 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server >> Access >> >> What's wrong with a simple VPN? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley >> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2014 5:43 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server >> Access >> >> A remote desktop server that they can hit via rdgateway. Especially >>those ipads. >> That would also entail a VL version of Office to be installed on >>that RDS server. >> >> Small businesses don't buy the VL licenses in order to support >>direct access. >> >> On 1/10/2014 8:42 PM, Chyka, Robert wrote: >>> We have a small remote office (6 users) with a Windows 2008R2 DC >>>and >>> a Windows 2012 DC/File server. The only activity this office >>>performs >>> on the network is web research and a lot of legal case document >>> creation and editing - mostly in Word. >>> >>> At our main office we use VON to access our file server and home >>> directories remotely (Cisco ASA 5520s for VPN) and have 400 megs of >>> bandwidth. At our small remote site we have the following gear: >>> >>> -Time Warner Business Class 25/10 >>> >>> -WatchGuard XTM 25 Firewall (inherited, not spec'd) >>> >>> For remote access to our 2012 file server using either Windows >>> laptops or Ipads what do you recommend for best performance and >>>connectivity? >>> >>> I was looking at Windows 2012 Anywhere Access but wanted to get >>> expert opinions in the small business sector. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
