Yes that's correct. And as Susan pointed out, if the Essentials installation is licensed via downgrade rights then a RD CAL is needed.
James. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank Arnold Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2014 7:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re[4]: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access But if not, then a CAL is needed? Regards, Hank Arnold Twitter: @Hank_PCDoc Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hank.arnold.96 My Blog: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/personal-pc-assistant/ ------ Original Message ------ From: "James Hill" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: 1/13/2014 4:35:51 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >If the server is SBS or essentials then no RD CAL is required when >accessing via RWA. > >James. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hank Arnold >Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 7:37 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re[2]: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server >Access > >I think my only potential concern with the RDG solution for SMBs is the >need for RDP licenses. For a small non-profit agency like mine, cost is >a major concern, especially since being Healthcare we are not eligible >for any discounts form MS or Tech Soup. > > >Regards, >Hank Arnold > > > >Twitter: @Hank_PCDoc > >Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hank.arnold.96 > >My Blog: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/personal-pc-assistant/ > > > > >------ Original Message ------ >From: "James Hill" <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: 1/12/2014 7:44:39 PM >Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access > >>I think we are all well versed with the size of your everything thanks >>Ken. And as you so regularly like to remind us I'm confident we won't >>forget. >> >>That doesn't change the fact that Robert asked for opinions from those >>in the SMB space. A highly regarded MVP has provided her opinion and >>it was RDG. You queried that and made a couple of statements. As I am >>also predominantly working in the SMB space I chose to respond whilst >>supporting Susan's proposed RDG solution. >> >>James. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >>Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 10:15 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >>I work in a "large organisation" - we spend well over a billion >>dollars a year on IT&T. We have both huge Citrix farms, and we have >>VPNs as well. I'm quite familiar with the pros/cons of the options. >> >>No one is saying that the RD solution doesn't have benefits. But there >>is a CAPEX and an ongoing OPEX cost to building and supporting a RD >>gateway solution, and it will probably be significantly more than a >>VPN, when the sole purpose is to access an existing file share. >> >>-- >>http://au.linkedin.com/in/kschaefer >>Typed on a Lenovo Helix - apologies for brevity >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Hill >>Sent: Monday, 13 January 2014 10:54 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >>VPN greatly amplifies the risk. It creates a direct link between the >>client and the server for all sorts of traffic. With RD Gateway it's >>only RDP traffic over https. >> >>Even for large firms, a thin solution often makes a lot more sense. >>The >>data is kept on the server so there are all the benefits of >>centralilsed data. Performance is great as there is no perceivable >>difference between opening a 2MB file vs a 20MB file. No special >>client is needed for Windows devices, they can even go to a RDWEB page >>on ANY windows device and login. Whether that is a home computer, >>hotel kiosk etc. That means virtually zero effort required by >>helpdesk/desktop support as they don't have to install and configure >>vpn clients, manage OS and application patches or security software. >> >>The user experience is greatly improved as the user is accessing the >>same desktop each time. All their shortcuts and settings are the same. >>They don't have to copy files from device to device. The list of >>benefits far outweighs a VPN solution. >> >>As Robert has a 400Mbps internet link I don't think the small cost of >>6 >>RD licenses is going to break the bank. >> >>James. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >>Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 2:33 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >>VPN means the data /may/ be copied to the mobile device - but if I >>open a file from a file server, make my edits, and then save the file, >>it'd be saved back to the file server, and not reside on my device. >> >>Given that these people are in the office normally, they can simply >>copy the files onto their device when they're in the office. Having a >>VPN doesn't really amplify the risk. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley >>Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 3:30 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server Access >> >>VPN means the data will be on the laptops and on ipads. >> >>Remote desktop services means that the files stay in the network where >>you can protect them better. >>On 1/11/2014 10:17 AM, Chyka, Robert wrote: >>> That is where my mind is at. Still I see simple VPN into the >>>Watchguard then direct access to the server shares. I just haven't >>>been in the loop with smaller office technologies so I wanted to see >>>if I was missing anything that is newer, quicker, better without >>>compromising security. >>> >>> -Bob C. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer >>> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:05 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server >>> Access >>> >>> What's wrong with a simple VPN? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley >>> Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2014 5:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Small Remote Office Remote File Server >>> Access >>> >>> A remote desktop server that they can hit via rdgateway. >>>Especially those ipads. >>> That would also entail a VL version of Office to be installed on >>>that RDS server. >>> >>> Small businesses don't buy the VL licenses in order to support >>>direct access. >>> >>> On 1/10/2014 8:42 PM, Chyka, Robert wrote: >>>> We have a small remote office (6 users) with a Windows 2008R2 DC >>>>and >>>> a Windows 2012 DC/File server. The only activity this office >>>>performs >>>> on the network is web research and a lot of legal case document >>>> creation and editing - mostly in Word. >>>> >>>> At our main office we use VON to access our file server and home >>>> directories remotely (Cisco ASA 5520s for VPN) and have 400 megs of >>>> bandwidth. At our small remote site we have the following gear: >>>> >>>> -Time Warner Business Class 25/10 >>>> >>>> -WatchGuard XTM 25 Firewall (inherited, not spec'd) >>>> >>>> For remote access to our 2012 file server using either Windows >>>> laptops or Ipads what do you recommend for best performance and >>>>connectivity? >>>> >>>> I was looking at Windows 2012 Anywhere Access but wanted to get >>>> expert opinions in the small business sector. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
