I was responding specifically to asb's second question.

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From: Steven M. Caesare<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: ‎4/‎21/‎2014 6:29 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] OT: Corporate Support of Open-Source projects

Oh, they “offer” it.

Is customer service a differentiator? Certainly. Would it support the company 
without the underlying service they provide customer service for? No.

Actually Comcast helps prove my point: A company can be sufficiently 
“incentivized”[1] by providing a service, with no satisfactory customer service 
supporting it. A company cannot provide customer service, with no underlying 
actual services/goods actually paid for[2].

-sc

[1] I rather hate that word
[2] Obviously there are “services” companies that provide only that, however 
that becomes their “product” , and they are typically an outsourced arm to 
support some other underlying good/service



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] OT: Corporate Support of Open-Source projects

Can you say “Comcast” ??

I knew you could…

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:20 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT: Corporate Support of Open-Source projects

So, only the category leaders (and those vying to be category leaders) offer 
customer service?
Are there any category leaders that *don't* offer customer service (or anything 
approaching real customer service), while others in their category do?






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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Kurt Buff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Re: Companies' incentives: That's not universally true. I refer you to 
>> companies that have as at least some of their core operating principles the 
>> ideas of customer service -
>
> That's an ends to a means. That customer service exists to promote goodwill 
> with regard to the customer buying products the sell,
>
> The litmus test for these:
>
> Cold the company conceivably exist by eliminating the "extra mile" customer 
> service? Yes. Could they existin by eliminating product sales? No.
Hrm. I don't think that's the right yardstick. I believe the question
should be: Would these companies be category leaders if they didn't
have such good customer service? And I believe the answer is no.

Kurt


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