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On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Finland and Russia are side by side. Russia’s #2 city (Saint Petersburg)
> is only about 75 miles from the Finland border.  There are probably as many
> FSB (KGB) agents at F-Secure as there are at Kaspersky. J
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *geoff_taylor geoff_taylor
> *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 9:05 AM
> *To:* ntsysadm
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Dropping Kaspersky Av, who to replace it with?
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> I like the offerings of F-Secure.  They are Finnish so somewhat removed
> from the Kremlin.  Full disclosure, in other lives I sold both McAfee and
> F-Secure products, and I have used a myriad of others, principally Symantec.
>
> gt
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Eric Wittersheim <[email protected]>
> Date: September 15, 2017 at 8:02 AM
>
> We went from ESET to Sophos. The product is good but their support is not.
> I have had a lot better luck with the Win clients than my Mac clients as
> well. If they could get support fully staffed and trained I would have no
> problems with them.
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> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 6:47 AM, James M. Pulver < [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I've always liked ESET, and when we dropped Symantec, ESET was quoted to
> be the least expensive of a bunch we looked at. The ERA appliance is great,
> but a self install on Linux was buggy as hell. Glad I moved to the Virtual
> Appliance. Their tech support is B+ in my opinion. Upgraded to an A- as
> they don't run screaming from Linux. Some of the best I've dealt with, the
> main failing is no real route back to devs if there's a bug, but in terms
> of using what's there and being aware of work-arounds - they're among the
> best I've ever interacted with.
>
> They seem to be pretty effective, but then so was Symantec in our
> environment - we don't give out admin, and seem to have enough e-mail
> screening via Office 365 and central IT to really limit ransomware,
> followed by decent user culture of asking before clicking so there's not a
> lot of chances for it to step in. It does kill a few "driveby" unwanted
> applications for us, but we haven't (knock on wood) seen much real malware
> anyway.
>
> So if you have to tick the box for AV, like we do, ESET is a pretty good
> choice IMO. The other obvious "tick the box" one would be Windows Defender
> if you don't have to be cross platform. However, I think ESET is more
> effective - but as others said, that's not a high bar.
>
> I should point out, even the "traditional AV" isn't traditional AV anymore
> - ESET isn't just scanning against signatures. They have HIPS as well as
> behavior analysis and the like.
>
> James Pulver
> CLASSE Computer Group
> Cornell University
>
> On 09/14/2017 12:31 PM, Michael Leone wrote:
>
> We use Kaspersky for our AV needs, and to be honest, it's worked out
> well for us. It's certainly caught things that McAfee, our previous AV
> solution, didn't. However, they have this slight problem with being a
> covert arm of the Russian government, apparently ..
>
> So we need to drop them, as the federal agencies are doing.
>
> There are lots of reviews, such as av-test.org, that we are looking
> at. But tell me, who do you have? And - more importantly - if you had
> your say in the matter, would you keep them?
>
> We're an sort of enterprise level organization, maybe 1K users, bunch
> of laptops issued to remote users. So far, all Win 7 for workstations,
> but obviously that will change in the future. Servers are all Win
> 2008/2012 R2 (so far). So we need something with a centralized
> console, to push out rules, updates, etc.
>
> We use Proofpoint as an email gateway, so it does mail scanning. We
> have Checkpoint firewalls for managing that sort of traffic.
>
> Thoughts? I know I've heard good things about ESET and Sophos, among
> others. Just soliciting some real world opinions, along with our own
> research.
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