While I don’t know enough about Finland to argue the point, by this logic,
Miami is close enough to Havana to say the entire US falls under the same
classification. As I said, not debate the state of the state, only the flaw in
the logic.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
those who understand binary and those who don't.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Dropping Kaspersky Av, who to replace it with?
Finland and Russia are side by side. Russia’s #2 city (Saint Petersburg) is
only about 75 miles from the Finland border. There are probably as many FSB
(KGB) agents at F-Secure as there are at Kaspersky. ☺
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of geoff_taylor geoff_taylor
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:05 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Dropping Kaspersky Av, who to replace it with?
I like the offerings of F-Secure. They are Finnish so somewhat removed from
the Kremlin. Full disclosure, in other lives I sold both McAfee and F-Secure
products, and I have used a myriad of others, principally Symantec.
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---------- Original Message ----------
From: Eric Wittersheim
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: September 15, 2017 at 8:02 AM
We went from ESET to Sophos. The product is good but their support is not. I
have had a lot better luck with the Win clients than my Mac clients as well. If
they could get support fully staffed and trained I would have no problems with
them.
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 6:47 AM, James M. Pulver <
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've always liked ESET, and when we dropped Symantec, ESET was quoted to be the
least expensive of a bunch we looked at. The ERA appliance is great, but a self
install on Linux was buggy as hell. Glad I moved to the Virtual Appliance.
Their tech support is B+ in my opinion. Upgraded to an A- as they don't run
screaming from Linux. Some of the best I've dealt with, the main failing is no
real route back to devs if there's a bug, but in terms of using what's there
and being aware of work-arounds - they're among the best I've ever interacted
with.
They seem to be pretty effective, but then so was Symantec in our environment -
we don't give out admin, and seem to have enough e-mail screening via Office
365 and central IT to really limit ransomware, followed by decent user culture
of asking before clicking so there's not a lot of chances for it to step in. It
does kill a few "driveby" unwanted applications for us, but we haven't (knock
on wood) seen much real malware anyway.
So if you have to tick the box for AV, like we do, ESET is a pretty good choice
IMO. The other obvious "tick the box" one would be Windows Defender if you
don't have to be cross platform. However, I think ESET is more effective - but
as others said, that's not a high bar.
I should point out, even the "traditional AV" isn't traditional AV anymore -
ESET isn't just scanning against signatures. They have HIPS as well as behavior
analysis and the like.
James Pulver
CLASSE Computer Group
Cornell University
On 09/14/2017 12:31 PM, Michael Leone wrote:
We use Kaspersky for our AV needs, and to be honest, it's worked out
well for us. It's certainly caught things that McAfee, our previous AV
solution, didn't. However, they have this slight problem with being a
covert arm of the Russian government, apparently ..
So we need to drop them, as the federal agencies are doing.
There are lots of reviews, such as av-test.org<http://av-test.org>, that we are
looking
at. But tell me, who do you have? And - more importantly - if you had
your say in the matter, would you keep them?
We're an sort of enterprise level organization, maybe 1K users, bunch
of laptops issued to remote users. So far, all Win 7 for workstations,
but obviously that will change in the future. Servers are all Win
2008/2012 R2 (so far). So we need something with a centralized
console, to push out rules, updates, etc.
We use Proofpoint as an email gateway, so it does mail scanning. We
have Checkpoint firewalls for managing that sort of traffic.
Thoughts? I know I've heard good things about ESET and Sophos, among
others. Just soliciting some real world opinions, along with our own
research.
