I agree a lot with what you are saying. But please take this on. It cost
our forefathers a lot of blood for the Free'doms we have. If we give
them up, it may take blood to get them back. The solution may be to
batten down the hatches in the short term, but that is only a band-aid.
The solution for any illness is to eradicate the disease at the source.
Only that will ensure the restoration of the sense of freedom enjoyed in
countries all around the world, not just in the US.
The world should unite behind this one cause to make sure that once the
perpetrators are conclusively identified, they are made well aware that
when they are brought into custody, it won't mean a free ride in an
American prison for the rest of their days, but that far more dire
consequences await them, and those who continue to help the kinds of
things that carry out these types of crimes against life of all kinds.
Clayton Doige
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-----Original Message-----
From: PITNEY,LDENISE (A-Sonoma,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WAKE UP!!!!
A friend of mine who just had a baby told me "You know they only call it
morning sickness. It actually lasts all day." It's kinda like
'free'dom,
it's not really free that's just what it's called.
Econ 200 Professor Wells, The University of Arizona in Tucson --"There
is no
such thing as a free lunch, ..and if you say love...we know you're a
freshman."
The 'free'dom we've had all these years has never been FREE!! Ask anyone
whose served during a war -- personally our 'free'dom has cost me an
uncle
(whom I never met), a father who still can't watch war movies and has
skin
problems because of agent orange, another uncle who is slightly off, and
let's not forget about taxes; 'free'dom costs me more than 30% a year.
You can_not_have_it_all. It is as simple as supply and demand -- in your
personal life, can you spend all of the money you work for on any
whimsical
idea that pops into your head? No, because you will be less; homeless,
clothes-less, penniless but if that is your decision you have the choice
to
make it so, but you can not have it both ways. As we've learned
recently,
the 'free'dom we all think is 'free' has cost us around $20billion, (I
think
that's a low figure too) -- it doesn't include lives either. Please,
explain
to the families of those missing or dead why we should not give up any
liberty in exchange for security; you should be able to find their phone
numbers one of the news websites as they were on television last night
making desperate pleas for their loved ones. Terrorist came to our
country
and moved about freely, and have turned our own freedoms against us; but
we
don't want the FBI to scan email? Claim slippery-slope if you want to,
but
something, as compared to nothing (what happened on Tuesday) seems like
a
better option at this point.
Don't be confused, it's cost a H*ll of a lot to be free, we just don't
calculate the hidden costs.
Denise
-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The idiocy continues!
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Jolley Lee @Consult wrote:
> I don't want to sound really stupid here...I live in the UK and i'm
not
> sure what all of the loss of freedom threads are about. Is something
> happening in the US?
Nothing, yet. But there are real, and arugably justifiable, fears
that
our civil liberties will be sacrificed as a result of these attacks.
--
Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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