As the father of 2 daughters that has encouraged them to stand up for themselves in job interviews and be confident in the workplace, I'm delighted when I meet a woman IT professional. I've only dealt with a few directly, but each time I attend a IT function I see more and more women.
From: Pat Marshall [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT As a woman who's been in IT since the early 80's (yup, I'm an old bag), I've seen my share of age and sex discrimination. I've always been Pat, not Patricia, so it can cause a stir when I show up for interviews. I have always gotten great reviews for my work, but the pay has yet to catch up with what men get paid for the same work. It is kind of fun to work with the young "kids" and show them how networking and systems should be done. I've only been dissed by a few, but they are the first to come screaming for help when they get in trouble. So, I would say, go for it. There are way too many companies who have cut corners by hiring very inexperienced help and they need the expertise. All the best, Pat Marshall ________________________________ From: andy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT Back when I was taking engineering clasess, If one girl walked in - we were all ... cool ... there is a girl in this class If two girls walked in - we started getting suspicious. If 3 girls walked in, we were definitely in the wrong class and started checking to see where we should be. I think that is different now adays, probably have at least 2 girls in some engineering classes. On the other hand I was in a international relations class, and there was only 1 guy in the whole class, all of the rest were girls. I actually was not in the class, but running the projector. At 08:27 AM 9/20/2011, James Rankin wrote: I wouldn't discriminate against anyone based on age when recruiting, and I've never experienced any, but at 35 I guess it would be unlikely for me to experience it yet. I work with a couple of guys who are in their 50s and the experience they have is invaluable. Having said that, there are also some 50 (and 60) -somethings in the Apps team downstairs and they are useless. Age is immaterial - there are good and bad staff in both young and old camps. I'd be more inclined to think that there's a bit of sexism rather than age-ism in the IT sector, but that's just my own experience. But I hardly ever seem to work with ladies (more's the pity). Don't know whether that's down to discrimination or just the fact that as a rule girls don't seem to be interested in IT as a career, particularly at the more technical levels (no sexism intended there, before all the technically-minded ladies on the list flame me). Cheers, On 20 September 2011 13:22, Daniel Evensen <[email protected]> wrote: Age Discrimination in IT: I have read several articles online that states that age Discrimination in IT is more prevalent than in other fields. 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