To be honest, with Windows 'Server 8' looking to come out late next year and the way budget cycles work, I'd say now is a good to time to start planning for your future direction and budget needs.
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>wrote: > If you were to use the Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 (The non-full-blown-windows > one), you should be fine. > > In other configurations, I'm not so sure. You will need to hammer out the > details of the licensing. Likely you will need to update your CALs. > > > --Matt Ross > Ephrata School District > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nigel Parker > [mailto:[email protected]] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 > 00:20:05 -0700 > Subject: RE: Virtualisation software > > > > Hi > > > > Agreed > > > > But we have 2003 cals and I thought that if we ran 2008 server even the > > hyper V we would need 2008 cals as we were > > > > Accessing a 2008 server (although indirectly) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Nigel > > > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 20 September 2011 13:23 > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Virtualisation software > > > > > > > > And as for Client Access Licenses (CALs), that doesn't matter what you > > are running on the host - you still appropriate CALs. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:47 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Virtualisation software > > > > > > > > No matter which virtualization solution you obtain, you will need to > > license the Windows guests that run in them. If you're running Linux > > guests, then you're fine, of course. > > > > Purchasing an Enterprise license for Windows will allow for the running > > of up to 4 guests against that license. Purchases a Data Center license > > will allow for running an unlimited number of Windows guests against > > that particular license. > > > > You need to review the licensing documentation again.... > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx > > > > > > ASB > > > > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker > > > > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Nigel Parker > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi thanks to everyone that replied ! > > I have a working solution as we used Vmware products before that's why I > > went down this route > > > > I though with Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 you needed licenses for the clients > > to connect as we are running a mix of 2k and 2003 servers I gave this a > > miss, as we will have a number of people connecting to these virtual > > machines > > > > I want the bare metal route as we cant spend anything at the moment > > And our thinking was that bare metal would have less overhead and > > therefore allow us to run more machines on the same host > > > > Thanks for all the replies > > Regards Nigel > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 19 September 2011 17:10 > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > Subject: Re: Virtualisation software > > > > For Bare Metal + Free, I think your only options are ESXi and XenServer. > > > > For nearly Bare Metal + Free, check out: > > > > Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 - > > http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3512 > > ProxmoxVE - http://pve.proxmox.com/ > > > > We ended up using Hyper-V, but not the "nearly bare-metal" one linked > > above. We decided to use the full install of Windows Server and run > > Hyper-V on top so we could keep the ease of use functionality, 3rd party > > network and RAID management compatibility, and it wasn't _that_ much > > more headroom to have the full windows experience. The fact that the > > licensing allows us to the host server "for free" is nice, too. See: > > http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V > > irtualization-Licensing.ashx > > <http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2- > > V%0d%0airtualization-Licensing.ashx> > > > > Proxmox looks awesome for a linux based VM server. I recommend you try > > this one only if you're planning a small scale deployment, as they don't > > have any good clustering support, yet. > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nigel Parker > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 > > 01:16:57 -0700 > > Subject: Virtualisation software > > > > > > > Hi > > > I am looking for some Bare metal Virtualisation software the criteria > > I > > > have been given is that it must be > > > FREE! > > > > > > I looked on Vmware website and although they list > > > VMware vSphere Hypervisor > > > As Free it seem the product when I installed it said It was a 60 day > > > version - they gave me a serial number and I tired to follow the docs > > > about entering it however I didn't have the icon on my client to > > select > > > and install the license > > > > > > Is the product still free - > > > Do you have to run it for 60 days before you can enter the serial > > number > > > > > > Have I finally lost it ? > > > > > > Help would be appreciated > > > > > > Nigel Parker > > > > > > Systems Engineer > > > Ultraframe (UK) Ltd > > > Tel: 01200 452329 > > > Fax: 01200 452201 > > > Web: <www.ultraframe.com> > > > Email: <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > > > > > The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may > > not > > > represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. > > > This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it > > is > > > confidential and may be legally privileged. 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