If you're starting out, without any existing licensing, Datacenter is almost a no brainer. My challenge is transitioning to Datacenter. That will likely happen at the next server OS release.
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: > That was merely a throw away example. We got lots of licenses for lots of > stuff on 'em :) But when we order a vmware host, we order a set of licenses > for them. > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote: > >> No. They're not... >> Data Center Licenses may only be run on multi-processor boxes. >> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Well, if they only have one processor in the host they're fine... ;o) >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Jonathan Link >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I sure hope it's more than one Data Center license... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We run VMware here and for every VMware host we have a Windows Data >>>>> Center license. >>>>> >>>>> Watching the new HyperV 3 features and our environment requirements and >>>>> VMware's license changes, we'll be checking into it more next year as the >>>>> Server software gets into beta and release. We are in the beginnings of >>>>> our >>>>> 3 year agreement with VMware so no immediate cost change for us. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Ken Schaefer >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And as for Client Access Licenses (CALs), that doesn’t matter what >>>>>> you are running on the host – you still appropriate CALs.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:47 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Virtualisation software**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> No matter which virtualization solution you obtain, you will need to >>>>>> license the Windows guests that run in them. If you're running Linux >>>>>> guests, then you're fine, of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> Purchasing an Enterprise license for Windows will allow for the >>>>>> running of up to 4 guests against that license. Purchases a Data Center >>>>>> license will allow for running an unlimited number of Windows guests >>>>>> against >>>>>> that particular license. >>>>>> >>>>>> You need to review the licensing documentation again.... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> *ASB***** >>>>>> >>>>>> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker***** >>>>>> >>>>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…***** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Nigel Parker < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi thanks to everyone that replied ! >>>>>> I have a working solution as we used Vmware products before that's why >>>>>> I >>>>>> went down this route >>>>>> >>>>>> I though with Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 you needed licenses for the >>>>>> clients >>>>>> to connect as we are running a mix of 2k and 2003 servers I gave this >>>>>> a >>>>>> miss, as we will have a number of people connecting to these virtual >>>>>> machines >>>>>> >>>>>> I want the bare metal route as we cant spend anything at the moment >>>>>> And our thinking was that bare metal would have less overhead and >>>>>> therefore allow us to run more machines on the same host >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for all the replies >>>>>> Regards Nigel**** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: 19 September 2011 17:10 >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Virtualisation software >>>>>> >>>>>> For Bare Metal + Free, I think your only options are ESXi and >>>>>> XenServer. >>>>>> >>>>>> For nearly Bare Metal + Free, check out: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 - >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3512 >>>>>> ProxmoxVE - http://pve.proxmox.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> We ended up using Hyper-V, but not the "nearly bare-metal" one linked >>>>>> above. We decided to use the full install of Windows Server and run >>>>>> Hyper-V on top so we could keep the ease of use functionality, 3rd >>>>>> party >>>>>> network and RAID management compatibility, and it wasn't _that_ much >>>>>> more headroom to have the full windows experience. The fact that the >>>>>> licensing allows us to the host server "for free" is nice, too. See: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V >>>>>> irtualization-Licensing.ashx<http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V%0d%0airtualization-Licensing.ashx> >>>>>> >>>>>> Proxmox looks awesome for a linux based VM server. I recommend you try >>>>>> this one only if you're planning a small scale deployment, as they >>>>>> don't >>>>>> have any good clustering support, yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --Matt Ross >>>>>> Ephrata School District >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Nigel Parker >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> Sent: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 >>>>>> 01:16:57 -0700 >>>>>> Subject: Virtualisation software >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Hi >>>>>> > I am looking for some Bare metal Virtualisation software the >>>>>> criteria >>>>>> I >>>>>> > have been given is that it must be >>>>>> > FREE! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I looked on Vmware website and although they list >>>>>> > VMware vSphere Hypervisor >>>>>> > As Free it seem the product when I installed it said It was a 60 day >>>>>> > version - they gave me a serial number and I tired to follow the >>>>>> docs >>>>>> > about entering it however I didn't have the icon on my client to >>>>>> select >>>>>> > and install the license >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Is the product still free - >>>>>> > Do you have to run it for 60 days before you can enter the serial >>>>>> number >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Have I finally lost it ? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Help would be appreciated >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Nigel Parker >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Systems Engineer >>>>>> > Ultraframe (UK) Ltd >>>>>> > Tel: 01200 452329 >>>>>> > Fax: 01200 452201 >>>>>> > Web: <www.ultraframe.com> >>>>>> > Email: <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and >>>>>> may >>>>>> not >>>>>> > represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. >>>>>> > This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in >>>>>> it >>>>>> is >>>>>> > confidential and may be legally privileged. 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