That was merely a throw away example.  We got lots of licenses for lots of
stuff on 'em :)  But when we order a vmware host, we order a set of licenses
for them.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote:

> No.  They're not...
> Data Center Licenses may only be run on multi-processor boxes.
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Don Ely <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well, if they only have one processor in the host they're fine...  ;o)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Jonathan Link 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I sure hope it's more than one Data Center license...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We run VMware here and for every VMware host we have a Windows Data
>>>> Center license.
>>>>
>>>> Watching the new HyperV 3 features and our environment requirements and
>>>> VMware's license changes, we'll be checking into it more next year as the
>>>> Server software gets into beta and release.  We are in the beginnings of 
>>>> our
>>>> 3 year agreement with VMware so no immediate cost change for us.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  And as for Client Access Licenses (CALs), that doesn’t matter what
>>>>> you are running on the host – you still appropriate CALs.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers****
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 September 2011 7:47 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Virtualisation software****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> No matter which virtualization solution you obtain, you will need to
>>>>> license the Windows guests that run in them.  If you're running Linux
>>>>> guests, then you're fine, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Purchasing an Enterprise license for Windows will allow for the running
>>>>> of up to 4 guests against that license.  Purchases a Data Center license
>>>>> will allow for running an unlimited number of Windows guests against that
>>>>> particular license.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to review the licensing documentation again....
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> *ASB*****
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Nigel Parker <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi thanks to everyone that replied !
>>>>> I have a working solution as we used Vmware products before that's why
>>>>> I
>>>>> went down this route
>>>>>
>>>>> I though with Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 you needed licenses for the
>>>>> clients
>>>>> to connect as we are running a mix of 2k and 2003 servers I gave this a
>>>>> miss, as we will have a number of people connecting to these virtual
>>>>> machines
>>>>>
>>>>> I want the bare metal route as we cant spend anything at the moment
>>>>> And our thinking was that bare metal would have less overhead and
>>>>> therefore allow us to run more machines on the same host
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all the replies
>>>>> Regards Nigel****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: 19 September 2011 17:10
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues****
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Virtualisation software
>>>>>
>>>>> For Bare Metal + Free, I think your only options are ESXi and
>>>>> XenServer.
>>>>>
>>>>> For nearly Bare Metal + Free, check out:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hyper-V Server 2008 R2  -
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=3512
>>>>> ProxmoxVE - http://pve.proxmox.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> We ended up using Hyper-V, but not the "nearly bare-metal" one linked
>>>>> above. We decided to use the full install of Windows Server and run
>>>>> Hyper-V on top so we could keep the ease of use functionality, 3rd
>>>>> party
>>>>> network and RAID management compatibility, and it wasn't _that_ much
>>>>> more headroom to have the full windows experience. The fact that the
>>>>> licensing allows us to the host server "for free" is nice, too. See:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V
>>>>> irtualization-Licensing.ashx<http://www.quicklearn.us/library/Virtualization.Windows-Server-2008-R2-V%0d%0airtualization-Licensing.ashx>
>>>>>
>>>>> Proxmox looks awesome for a linux based VM server. I recommend you try
>>>>> this one only if you're planning a small scale deployment, as they
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have any good clustering support, yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Matt Ross
>>>>> Ephrata School District
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Nigel Parker
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Mon, 19 Sep 2011
>>>>> 01:16:57 -0700
>>>>> Subject: Virtualisation software
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi
>>>>> > I am looking for some Bare metal Virtualisation software the criteria
>>>>> I
>>>>> > have been given is that it must be
>>>>> > FREE!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I looked on Vmware website and although they list
>>>>> > VMware vSphere Hypervisor
>>>>> > As Free it seem the product when I installed it said It was a 60 day
>>>>> > version - they gave me a serial number and I tired to follow the docs
>>>>> > about entering it however I didn't have the icon on my client to
>>>>> select
>>>>> > and install the license
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is the product still free -
>>>>> > Do you have to run it for 60 days before you can enter the serial
>>>>> number
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Have I finally lost it ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Help would be appreciated
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Nigel Parker
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Systems Engineer
>>>>> > Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
>>>>> > Tel:   01200 452329
>>>>> > Fax:   01200 452201
>>>>> > Web:   <www.ultraframe.com>
>>>>> > Email: <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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